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Old 08-08-2009, 08:08 PM
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I am at the end of my rope, and still dont have a clue what the problem is...

My car caught on fire a while ago, and has had wiring related problems for some time.

I recently decided enough is enough, and I replaced every wiring harness in the car.

Since then, new problems came to the surface.

My speedometer does not work...

And the car wont crank.

The PCM is not throwing any codes other than emissions test not completed.

If I leave the battery disconnected for a few hours, then reconnect, It will crank, start, and drive... (But with no clue how fast I'm going)

But then after I cut it off, it will not crank untill I disconnect the battery again.

It will however start just fine if I push it and pop the clutch.

I also just replaced the starter, alternater, and camshaft position sensor.

I think the speed sensor and cranking issue could be related, But If I knew my stuff, I wouldnt be here asking questions.

If anyone has a clue what the problem could be, I will gladly buy you a beer or 20.

Thanks in advance
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:33 AM
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crank sensor?
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:44 AM
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What does the Theft light show? It may be a PATS problem, did you change the instrument cluster or PCM?
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
What does the Theft light show? It may be a PATS problem, did you change the instrument cluster or PCM?
thanks for your response

I did not change either, and as far as I can tell, the theft light is acting normally.
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Old 08-09-2009, 06:51 AM
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I had a similar problem with a vehicle once. It ended up being a wire going to the starter that had a bad connection. It would start fine cold. When the vehicle was warm it would short out. Good luck.
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Old 08-09-2009, 07:08 AM
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Kinda off topic but - how did it catch on fire and how much damage did it do?
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Originally Posted by 0440thgt
Kinda off topic but - how did it catch on fire and how much damage did it do?
pillow in the road, got stuck on my headers...

Mostly just wiring burned up, some hoses, ect
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:08 PM
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The odd part is that letting the PCM reset (AFAIK disconnecting the battery just clears the KAM, 5-7 minutes is enough to do that), allows it to start???

That's what led me to wonder about the PATS, however adding to the complexity is that it will jump start, PATS kills to ignition too...
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
The odd part is that letting the PCM reset (AFAIK disconnecting the battery just clears the KAM, 5-7 minutes is enough to do that), allows it to start???

That's what led me to wonder about the PATS, however adding to the complexity is that it will jump start, PATS kills to ignition too...
yeah, the battery has to be disconnected for at least a couple hours for it to start with the key, otherwise I have to roll start it.

Definitely the strangest problem I've had
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:42 PM
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I guess It just wasnt talking to me... (Pissed Off Cause I havent cleaned it in a long time)

I took it to the car wash, and then the check engine light came on with many codes.

P1000 - OBD Systems Readyness Test Not Complete
P0722 - Output Shaft Speed Sensor NO SIGNAL
P0720 - Output Shaft Speed Sensor Circuit
P0141 - HO2S Sensor Circuit Malfuncion (HO2S-125)
P0161 - HO2S Sensor Circuit Malfuncion (HO2S-22)
P0171 - System Too Lean (Bank-01)
P0174 - System Too Lean (Bank-02)

Thats a ton of codes...
But better to have a ton than none.

Any Ideas what single problem could cause all these ???
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