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Old 08-21-2009, 02:02 PM
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Lets talk about something called efficiency. The 2005+ GT have the same stock bottom end and are breaking 500 rwhp easily. Its called volumentric effiency. So dont say a bottom end is only good to a certain power because there is more to the equation than you think. A supercharger will rob 40-60 rwhp more than a turbo because it takes power to spin the blower making it less efficient than a turbocharger. 8 PSI is 8 PSI! There is more stress at 8 PSI internally with a supercharger because its robbing power to spin the blower. Its common sense. Yet a tubo WILL MAKE 40-60 rwhp more than a supercharger. 500 is easily the safe point in a turbo set up. If you dont follow best bet is to call hellion. Talk to one of them. They will laugh in your face for saying 400 is "safe". AT 8 PSI he will break 400 RWHP!!!
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just remember who gave you the above advice when you're picking up your shattered rods off the highway...

people should be willing to back up their advice with their own cash. i.e. as the OP blows his motor, those who tell him they've seen 'tons of stock bottom end GTs over 500rwhp' have to pony up the cash for the repair.
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Originally Posted by GTRACER88
Lets talk about something called efficiency. The 2005+ GT have the same stock bottom end and are breaking 500 rwhp easily. Its called volumentric effiency. So dont say a bottom end is only good to a certain power because there is more to the equation than you think. A supercharger will rob 40-60 rwhp more than a turbo because it takes power to spin the blower making it less efficient than a turbocharger. 8 PSI is 8 PSI! There is more stress at 8 PSI internally with a supercharger because its robbing power to spin the blower. Its common sense. Yet a tubo WILL MAKE 40-60 rwhp more than a supercharger. 500 is easily the safe point in a turbo set up. If you dont follow best bet is to call hellion. Talk to one of them. They will laugh in your face for saying 400 is "safe". AT 8 PSI he will break 400 RWHP!!!

Well, your on the right track, close but no cigar for you. He will be in the high 300s, maybe 375 at the tire with 8-9 psi. Anything more, and HELLION recommends upgrading your internals. Oh BTW>they didnt laugh in my face when I called them 3 minutes ago....

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Old 08-21-2009, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by devongarver
1. Well, your on the right track, close but no cigar for you. He will be in the high 300s, maybe 375 at the tire with 8-9 psi.

2. Anything more, and HELLION recommends upgrading your internals.

3. Oh BTW>they didnt laugh in my face when I called them 3 minutes ago....

1. Your going to tell me that a twin turbo intercooled system is not going to break 400 rwhp at 8-9 psi??? Your misinformed.

2. Im sure they do. They dont want to take any blame. Ford also recommends to keep your car stock.

3. Lol at that one

I was going to go the turbo route before i went the nitrous route, should have gone the turbo route, and did extensive research. I was looking at the HP twin turbo kit and talked to them and also talked to B&G turbo kits and both said dont go over 500 rwhp. Here is a FAQ sheet from HP site. http://www.turbochargedpower.com/FAQ.htm
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:38 PM
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I know this is a 4v but check this power out... http://turbochargedpower.com/2001%20...ert%20Gore.htm

Or this 2v... http://turbochargedpower.com/2003%20...%20Garrett.htm

Here is another 2v... http://turbochargedpower.com/2001%20...Cunningham.htm

I think we get the picture...
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:59 AM
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and here's the disclaimer at the bottom of their page in fine print:

"Performance modifications, by their very nature, are normally used to increase performance levels and can create additional risk of failure of various factory components. Customers purchasing or installing performance modifications on their vehicles accept and assume this risk completely. HP Performance does not assume any liability whatsoever for damage or other loss or expense in connection with the customers' use of performance parts purchased by the customer or installed by HP Performance."

go figure....
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:24 AM
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So does every company. Every company has a disclaimer notice. It's to keep them from lawsuits... Your tune has a good role in the life expectancy of your engine. This is done. The op probably doesn't even get on.

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1. Your going to tell me that a twin turbo intercooled system is not going to break 400 rwhp at 8-9 psi??? Your misinformed.


The OP said he is running a single turbo not twins.
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Whoops. Still. Doesn't make a difference...
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Originally Posted by GTRACER88
Whoops. Still. Doesn't make a difference...
Thats like saying it doesn't make a difference if I walk with both feet or hop along on one...wtf dude. The information to whcih I was so very misinformed as you put it, was from Jeff, at Hellion. Considering he is part of a major performace turbocharger application company, and YOU are not....well, I think we get the picture

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