khalaf

Alright guyz.. here is it..

Its a totally waste of time and money,,
..
I did a N/A 5.0 stoker with stage 2 patriot heads. And what I got ? only 318rwhp and 351 rwtq.. Come onnnnnnnn.. !!

NOW I'm thinking of doing it right this time..

i'm selling my 02 mustang gt with tha standard engine.
sell the heads and cams,

buying a 2008 mustang Gt

buy 4v heads And also changing the pistons to dish pistons.
And bolt the engine in the car.. With a TT kit.

Info of what i have now..
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Eagle stroker kit
- Actual Engine CID: 300
- Bore (mm): 90.703mm
- Engine Stroke (in): 3.750 in.
- Piston and Ring Oversize (in): 0.030 in.
- Piston Material: Forged aluminum
- Piston Style: Flat top, with two valve reliefs
- Piston Head Volume (cc): +4.00cc
- Crankshaft Material: Forged 4340 steel
- Connecting Rod Material: Forged 4340 steel
- Connecting Rod Beam Style: H-beam


Patriot Performance 1004 (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PAR-1004/)


Comp. cams (XE270AH-13)
- Intake Duration 050 inch Lift: 234
- Exhaust Duration 050 inch Lift: 238
- Duration at 050 inch Lift: 234 int./238 exh.
- Advertised Intake Duration: 270
- Advertised Exhaust Duration: 274
- Advertised Duration: 270 int./274 exh.
- Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.550
- Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.550
- Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.550 int./0.550 exh. lift
- Lobe Separation (degrees): 113


MELLING High volume oil pump
Trickflow complete timing set (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-51800500/)
Compression ratio 11.5:1
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Now what i really need to know is..


is it the same shortblocks on the 3v 4.6s and the 2v 4.6s ?? and if its not the same.. can we use the same internals (crank, connecting rods, pistons) ? (i really would like to take the stroker kit since its forged)


Can we just change from 2v to 4v heads with out changing the block ?
if there is an article or so.. i will appreciate posting the link


what is the best 4v heads casting ? thinking of buying a navigator's from a man i know here in kuwait.. r those heads r good ?


any other ideas on how to make the car goes +800 rwhp will be appreciated..



one more thing.. plz don't waste ur time with N/A projects lol

WannaBeGearHead

Will I'm not sure what you were expecting to get out of a little 2v N/A. Everyone should know these little motors are no good for making big numbers N/A. I would say keep what you have and add a blower/turbo and I'm sure you would be happy with those results.

The S197 blocks are different then the 2v's.

You can add 4v heads without changing the block.

Don't know about the Navi's heads.

A big blower or TT will get you at or around 800rwhp.

And saying N/A projects are a waste of time isn't true, they only are if you use a little 281 V8 lol

Dteal23

ummm you arent supposed to make a ton of power with that motor... i was looking at something like that a few years back when i was going to add blower

khalaf

so u r sayin that, the 3v's blocks r diff. from the 2v's ?

what about the internals ? I really want this eagle kit on a 2005+ mustang with 4v heads. can it be done ?


U mean, N/A ? right ?

WannaBeGearHead

Yes the 3v and 2v blocks are different. I don't know if you can use a kit for a 2005 for 4v heads.

I don't know if you read but why not just put a blower or turbo on your 2v now? You will be able to make good power with the 2v motors if your doing f/i. N/A these motors aren't for building a N/A monster.

khalaf

First thanks for everything

2nd, I was thinking on putting a turbo on my setup now
but i will need to change the piston since mine now if flat to +4.00
and the compression is 11.5

also the heads r not good enough cuz the flow is very low

I'm thinking to do it right. go with dish pistons and 4v heads.

a 5.0 4v modular with a tt o blower would be a monster