Symtoms of a fuel pump failure?
11-22-2011, 12:14 PM
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11-25-2011, 06:28 PM
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That is the plug, Just make sure you test the right connector and wires.
Test the one going toward the tank not the body with 12V on wires stated in my last post(spare batt works or jump box).
If you hear FP come on then its good or can be weak if you here it sputter.
You can test the other connector (one toward bumper) with a test light for power issue with a buddy.Turn on key and if test light lights up FP is getting power.its better to test with mutimeter to see volts.
This is how I tested mine when Stock FP failed
Good Luck
Test the one going toward the tank not the body with 12V on wires stated in my last post(spare batt works or jump box).
If you hear FP come on then its good or can be weak if you here it sputter.
You can test the other connector (one toward bumper) with a test light for power issue with a buddy.Turn on key and if test light lights up FP is getting power.its better to test with mutimeter to see volts.
This is how I tested mine when Stock FP failed
Good Luck
Exactly, i wasn't 100% it was the fuel pump
Again thank you both for your help, you've spent a lot of time writing/helping on the topic, it's greatly appreciated!
Last edited by MySlowGT; 11-25-2011 at 06:36 PM.
11-25-2011, 06:34 PM
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P.S. I am ordering a Fuel Pump really soon thanks everyone.
BTW I also have one other thing in the back of my mind... does CCRM's (constant control relay modules) go out in stages? Just wondering if I'm going to have to replace both... not the biggest worry, 99.999% it's just the pump, and will be replacing it regardless.
BTW I also have one other thing in the back of my mind... does CCRM's (constant control relay modules) go out in stages? Just wondering if I'm going to have to replace both... not the biggest worry, 99.999% it's just the pump, and will be replacing it regardless
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11-25-2011, 07:29 PM
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If it is inexpensive, has moving parts and you are right there.... just replace it!
I have found, through LOTS of trial/error, to replace inexpensive, yet near the end of their expected life, items before they fail! Using this philosophy, I drove my '85 GT for 20+ years and it NEVER left me stranded on the side of the road. I replaced the first water pump when it began to leak and the second one 50K miles later, when I decided to replace the timing chain and had to remove the pump to get to it. I was having what I thought to be ignition issues, when I replaced the fuel pump, just because it was old. Turns out, the pump WAS my problem and was just an afterthought to replace it.
I replace nearly everything, based on expected mileage or standard lifespan. I do so probably 15%~20% early in both cases. May sound expensive, but not as much as getting towed in the middle of the night. Much less the absolutely LOUSY timing some of these things can have when they decide to fail completely
Jazzer... safer then sorryer
I have found, through LOTS of trial/error, to replace inexpensive, yet near the end of their expected life, items before they fail! Using this philosophy, I drove my '85 GT for 20+ years and it NEVER left me stranded on the side of the road. I replaced the first water pump when it began to leak and the second one 50K miles later, when I decided to replace the timing chain and had to remove the pump to get to it. I was having what I thought to be ignition issues, when I replaced the fuel pump, just because it was old. Turns out, the pump WAS my problem and was just an afterthought to replace it.
I replace nearly everything, based on expected mileage or standard lifespan. I do so probably 15%~20% early in both cases. May sound expensive, but not as much as getting towed in the middle of the night. Much less the absolutely LOUSY timing some of these things can have when they decide to fail completely
Jazzer... safer then sorryer
11-25-2011, 08:52 PM
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If it is inexpensive, has moving parts and you are right there.... just replace it!
I have found, through LOTS of trial/error, to replace inexpensive, yet near the end of their expected life, items before they fail! Using this philosophy, I drove my '85 GT for 20+ years and it NEVER left me stranded on the side of the road. I replaced the first water pump when it began to leak and the second one 50K miles later, when I decided to replace the timing chain and had to remove the pump to get to it. I was having what I thought to be ignition issues, when I replaced the fuel pump, just because it was old. Turns out, the pump WAS my problem and was just an afterthought to replace it.
I replace nearly everything, based on expected mileage or standard lifespan. I do so probably 15%~20% early in both cases. May sound expensive, but not as much as getting towed in the middle of the night. Much less the absolutely LOUSY timing some of these things can have when they decide to fail completely
Jazzer... safer then sorryer
I have found, through LOTS of trial/error, to replace inexpensive, yet near the end of their expected life, items before they fail! Using this philosophy, I drove my '85 GT for 20+ years and it NEVER left me stranded on the side of the road. I replaced the first water pump when it began to leak and the second one 50K miles later, when I decided to replace the timing chain and had to remove the pump to get to it. I was having what I thought to be ignition issues, when I replaced the fuel pump, just because it was old. Turns out, the pump WAS my problem and was just an afterthought to replace it.
I replace nearly everything, based on expected mileage or standard lifespan. I do so probably 15%~20% early in both cases. May sound expensive, but not as much as getting towed in the middle of the night. Much less the absolutely LOUSY timing some of these things can have when they decide to fail completely
Jazzer... safer then sorryer
And get AAA! $100 a year for 250 mile tow, or i think 45? for a 100 miles. Or go through your insurance, mine only offers a 15mile tow but it's $11 for 6 months... even if you never use it it's well worth the piece of mind!
11-25-2011, 09:23 PM
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Yup.... I have a flat-bed package with my insurance company, but have NO intentions of using it, as I would rather not break down (no guarantees regardless of how diligent I am about maintainance!)
I am certainly not unique, in that exactly which one of us actually WANTS to break down and need a tow? Fortunately, I have always been able to afford the loss of some pro-rated wear of a part, than wait until it has already failed to replace it.
Besides, one never knows where he/she will be at the time of needing a tow. You may be 10 miles from home on a lazy Saturday afternoon with nothing on your schedule to do that night and nowhere to be.
On the other hand, you may not......
I am certainly not unique, in that exactly which one of us actually WANTS to break down and need a tow? Fortunately, I have always been able to afford the loss of some pro-rated wear of a part, than wait until it has already failed to replace it.
Besides, one never knows where he/she will be at the time of needing a tow. You may be 10 miles from home on a lazy Saturday afternoon with nothing on your schedule to do that night and nowhere to be.
On the other hand, you may not......
11-25-2011, 11:00 PM
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Yup.... I have a flat-bed package with my insurance company, but have NO intentions of using it, as I would rather not break down (no guarantees regardless of how diligent I am about maintainance!)
I am certainly not unique, in that exactly which one of us actually WANTS to break down and need a tow? Fortunately, I have always been able to afford the loss of some pro-rated wear of a part, than wait until it has already failed to replace it.
Besides, one never knows where he/she will be at the time of needing a tow. You may be 10 miles from home on a lazy Saturday afternoon with nothing on your schedule to do that night and nowhere to be.
On the other hand, you may not......
I am certainly not unique, in that exactly which one of us actually WANTS to break down and need a tow? Fortunately, I have always been able to afford the loss of some pro-rated wear of a part, than wait until it has already failed to replace it.
Besides, one never knows where he/she will be at the time of needing a tow. You may be 10 miles from home on a lazy Saturday afternoon with nothing on your schedule to do that night and nowhere to be.
On the other hand, you may not......
01-16-2012, 06:37 PM
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Sorry to bump the thread so late but i do have a couple questions.
Is there a proper way to remove this line? Or just push the tabs and pull?
Also all i need to remove is the fuel line attached to the fuel filter, filler neck, and this line and the tank should drop free after i unbolt the straps right?
Thanks guys, sorry for all the questions
Is there a proper way to remove this line? Or just push the tabs and pull?
Also all i need to remove is the fuel line attached to the fuel filter, filler neck, and this line and the tank should drop free after i unbolt the straps right?
Thanks guys, sorry for all the questions
01-16-2012, 08:05 PM
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OMG who cut into their car to replace the pump? 
Nevermind i read it... poor guy. And there was 2 or 3 people in there that decided to cut into their trucks. That's what forums are for! read before cutting stuff!
The fuel pump write up is pretty good! Thanks again
(had to throw this one in here!)
edit: can anyone tell i like using icons? haha
Nevermind i read it... poor guy. And there was 2 or 3 people in there that decided to cut into their trucks. That's what forums are for! read before cutting stuff!
The fuel pump write up is pretty good! Thanks again
(had to throw this one in here!)edit: can anyone tell i like using icons? haha