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Old 02-24-2012, 09:35 PM
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Default trunk lid difference 1999-2000?

whats the difference in coupe decklids, between 2000 and 2001 mustangs?
i see different spoilers listed for each model.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:38 PM
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Trunk lid is the same , The spoiler is the only change
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It's a wing, not a spoiler--the mounting holes are different...
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do all the decklids have a third brake light? wing and non wing cars?
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:52 PM
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wings in 99-00's the change in 01-04's is the spoilers thrown on actually are designed to create downforce, albeit at high speeds that most wont be regularly driven at.
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A spoiler is a device intended to reduce drag by inducing turbulence and causing the laminar flow over a surface to separate sooner than it would without the spoiler.

A wing is a device which adds drag to generate lift--negative lift in automotive applications. The wings on F1 race cars create gobs of drag, because they also generate gobs of down force--4 to 5 times the weight of the vehicle.

The terms are used interchangeably, and therefore most often incorrectly, in automotive discussions--even so-called "authoritative sources" openly display their ignorance by blatantly mixing up and confusing the terms.

Here is a good Auto Aerodynamics 101 white paper...

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Originally Posted by cliffyk
A spoiler is a device intended to reduce drag by inducing turbulence and causing the laminar flow over a surface to separate sooner than it would without the spoiler.

A wing is a device which adds drag to generate lift--negative lift in automotive applications. The wings on F1 race cars create gobs of drag, because they also generate gobs of down force--4 to 5 times the weight of the vehicle.

The terms are used interchangeably, and therefore most often incorrectly, in automotive discussions--even so-called "authoritative sources" openly display their ignorance by blatantly mixing up and confusing the terms.

Here is a good Auto Aerodynamics 101 white paper...
my mistake, thanks for clarification sir, totally seperate topic but was wondering what your take on vg's are? been meaning to ask you but always forget heh.

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Originally Posted by cliffyk
A spoiler is a device intended to reduce drag by inducing turbulence and causing the laminar flow over a surface to separate sooner than it would without the spoiler.

A wing is a device which adds drag to generate lift--negative lift in automotive applications. The wings on F1 race cars create gobs of drag, because they also generate gobs of down force--4 to 5 times the weight of the vehicle.

The terms are used interchangeably, and therefore most often incorrectly, in automotive discussions--even so-called "authoritative sources" openly display their ignorance by blatantly mixing up and confusing the terms.

Here is a good Auto Aerodynamics 101 white paper...
CLIFFY,
I absolutely loved this write-up on aerodynamics!!!
I LMAO when reading that maybe we should not wax our cars but rather let them get hail damaged.

Although I expect the impact of such changes to be very low, I may experiment with closing off some of my front end openings, and adding a few washers to my hood hinges to allow a little air to exit from the rear of my engine compartment (for use at the drag strip). I totally buy into the notion that reducing the air flow from entering the engine compartment and then under the car is a very good thing. Since the Bullitts have no fog lights, I have additional openings for air to enter under the car.

THANKS for the link!!!
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