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Old 02-01-2013, 11:10 AM   #21
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Are they orange or pink (lavender)?

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just went and checked. 19 lbs . o well. thanks
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They show up on eBay from time to time--here's a clean looking set for $50 plus shipping...
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just went and checked. 19 lbs . o well. thanks
mine are red what do i have?
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Nice write-up. Most people would have gone straight to the CAI and then proceeded from there.

The OEM air intake after 2001 are just was good as (and sometimes better) than the aftermarket. Like with the Crown Vics, Grand Marquis, and Town Cars, the set to get was the 2004 Marauder intake. That is, until Ford stopped making them. The 2004 intakes work almost as well. We are talking FLOW RATES to the TB. Just add a good air filter, and go.
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Great information! Having just recently purchased a used 2004 Mustang GT this is exactly the kind of info I need. Thanks!
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Great thread Cliffyk.

I noticed you tune with a deltaforce tuner. Unfortunately I do not have one of those, but I do have a diablosport predator tuner. Should I just plunk on the canned 91 tune from it for now? Would that be safe with my orange top 19lb injectors? I have a 2000 GT 5-speed.
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Unfortunately I do not have one of those, but I do have a diablosport predator tuner. Should I just plunk on the canned 91 tune from it for now? Would that be safe with my orange top 19lb injectors? I have a 2000 GT 5-speed.
One of those preset tunes they put in the handhelds will do wonders to any vehicle,if the tune is for your vehicle. Don't expect it to feel like you have a new engine under the hood. The stock tune from Ford is setup to get you around as cheaply as possible. A custom tune (like the presets) will awaken the engine, although most do require a higher grade of fuel.

Some handheld will let you make adjustments as you add to your engine; CAI, bigger injectors, underdrive pulleys.
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NOTE: Not all manufacturers use that color code for fuel injectors. I have #42 that came w/ my ProCharger kit and there isnt a bit of green on any of them. just sayin.
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Clyffyk, I didnt quite get the injector part. If i would want to switch from orange 19lb to Pink 21lb or even Cobra 24lb, will i need a tune or not ? If yes, will a diablosport preset tunes will do the job ?
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Clyffyk, I didnt quite get the injector part. If i would want to switch from orange 19lb to Pink 21lb or even Cobra 24lb, will i need a tune or not ? If yes, will a diablosport preset tunes will do the job ?
You do not absolutely have to retune to switch from the 19s to the 21a (Ford didn't when they made the change), however the engine will run quite rich at higher loads and WOT with the 21s and that will cost some power.

With the 24 lb/h injectors you will definitely have to retune. I have no idea whether a DiabloSport handheld supports this--I suspect not...
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U will need a custom tune.
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Clyffyk, I didnt quite get the injector part. If i would want to switch from orange 19lb to Pink 21lb or even Cobra 24lb, will i need a tune or not ? If yes, will a diablosport preset tunes will do the job ?
Ford designs the injectors to work at about 90% of their duty cycle. With a Naturally Aspired engine (NA), by changing one step up on injectors (19# to 21 #) the injectors do not work so hard to keep the fuel flowing. A tune will help to increase the efficiency of the injectors over the factory tune.

Do not forget that the factory tune is a compromise between power and emissions. An aftermarket tune will liven up the engine with a minor increase in timing and have the injectors working more efficient within their duty cycle.

When you start adding power adders (SC or turbo), you will need lots more fuel. That is when you get to go have your vehicle dyno-tuned for maximum horsepower (which is the mistake most people make). Power adders need lots more fuel to make their power, so it is not unusual to see a SC engine running 82Lb injectors.

If you are looking for a little more hp, sure change your injectors up one step and put a tune on the engine. You will like the results.
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I asked because it was kinda unclearn to me in the original post, now its makes sense, i knew it, just wasn't sure on this duty cycle thingy. I had a turboed car, but its was different than a mustang. I was doing all tuning my self because the ECU let me do that. Fuel trims, Combined trims at closed and open loops, fuel graphs and many more, but i guess with ford its all much simplier, just go to a dyno, pay 500$ and tune it
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I asked because it was kinda unclearn to me in the original post, now its makes sense, i knew it, just wasn't sure on this duty cycle thingy. I had a turboed car, but its was different than a mustang. I was doing all tuning my self because the ECU let me do that. Fuel trims, Combined trims at closed and open loops, fuel graphs and many more, but i guess with ford its all much simplier, just go to a dyno, pay 500$ and tune it
Or buy a tuning system that lets you do that, SCT Advantage or Delta Force's Commando will let you do all that and more--with the Moates Quarterhorse you can do it on the fly while driving (someone else is) the car...
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Fuel trims, Combined trims at closed and open loops, fuel graphs and many more, but i guess with ford its all much simplier, just go to a dyno, pay 500$ and tune it
Like Cliffyk said, buy a handheld that allows you to do all those things. Go check them out and contact the manufacturer to see to what point you can make the adjustments.

Most people are just happy enough with the pre-loaded tunes, while others will go to a dyno setup and get a custom tune. It all depends on what you want.
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Handheld should be enough for me cause i am not gonna go crazy with my set up, maybe later on when ill have funds for now preloaded tune should do the job
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throw some basic suspension mods up on here and let the power be put to the pavement. Power is nothing without traction...
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throw some basic suspension mods up on here and let the power be put to the pavement. Power is nothing without traction...
You are right. If the suspension is too tight and unforgiving (like most), you never get the power down to the pavement. What good is a 650 rwhp engine if all you do is spin the tires? You need an active (for drag racing anyway in particular) suspension that allows weight transfer from the front to the rear. The vehicle will actually lift the front tires slightly as the weight goes back.

Www.allfords.com and forums.corral.net/forums both have excellent write-ups on how some people set up their own suspension.
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