Bought a 96 gt tonight...Lots of CEL codes
#31
Good luck...
Last edited by petrock; 01-25-2013 at 09:58 PM.
#32
Gee, you think maybe those might be part of the problem?
#33
That broken wire would probably explain the p1036 & p0141 codes you got. I’d replace that sensor or re-solder that wire back together with some shrink wrap tubing.
If the leak is between the pre-Cat O2 sensor & the motor then that would explain the lean condition your having. If the leak is between the cat and exhaust tip, then it is not causing your lean condition. However, the lean condition is being seen on both sides of the motor (bank 1 & bank 2), so you may have exhaust leaks on both sides.
Good luck...
If the leak is between the pre-Cat O2 sensor & the motor then that would explain the lean condition your having. If the leak is between the cat and exhaust tip, then it is not causing your lean condition. However, the lean condition is being seen on both sides of the motor (bank 1 & bank 2), so you may have exhaust leaks on both sides.
Good luck...
Anyone have any input on the frame situation?
#34
Well I didn't know about the o2 sensor until the car was on the lift earlier. And I'm not wondering why these codes are popping now. I'd be surprised if they weren't. But I will admit, I really wasn't sure if a small exhaust leak could trip the o2.
#35
If the leak is between the pre-Cat O2 sensor & the motor then that would explain the lean condition your having. If the leak is between the cat and exhaust tip, then it is not causing your lean condition. However, the lean condition is being seen on both sides of the motor (bank 1 & bank 2), so you may have exhaust leaks on both sides.
Good luck...
- The head is at a pressure higher than ambient, when it passes the "leak" the gas flows out into the world; but the chemical composition of the gas in the pipe remains unchanged;
- The body is at or close to ambient pressure. When it passes the leak nothing happens as it and the ambient pressure are nearly the same--the chemical make-up of the gas in the pipe remains unchanged;
- The tail is at less than ambient pressure (nearly a complete vacuum), and when it passes by the leak it sucks in ambient air--changing the exhaust gas chemical composition and making it appear "leaner" to the O2 sensor;
If this condition exists long enough the rich mixture (the PCM will richen the mix because it thinks it's lean and the leak prevents it from reporting properly) the O² sensor will be damaged by the overly rich mixture.
The sensor can be bench tested using a propane torch and multimeter, however the exhaust leak needs to be fixed or the "lean" condition will continue, and it will just ruin a new sensor...
#36
Yes it can, very easily. Any unmetered air in the motor and/or exhaust will cause the O2 sensors to read more o2 then expected in the exhaust. The computer will, as a result, think the motor is running lean and try to correct it by dumping more fuel into the system. So the computer thinks your running lean, dumps more fuel into the system making you run rich. All due to the exhaust leak.
Last edited by petrock; 01-25-2013 at 10:19 PM.
#38
While it is probably a good idea to change the filter out since you don’t know when it was last changed, or ever changed, I doubt it has anything to do with the problems your having. So don’t be surprised if it doesn’t fix anything.
Yes it can, very easily. Any unmetered air in the motor and/or exhaust will cause the O2 sensors to read more o2 then expected in the exhaust. The computer will, as a result, think the motor is running lean and try to correct it by dumping more fuel into the system. So the computer thinks your running lean, dumps more fuel into the system making you run rich. All due to the exhaust leak.
Yes it can, very easily. Any unmetered air in the motor and/or exhaust will cause the O2 sensors to read more o2 then expected in the exhaust. The computer will, as a result, think the motor is running lean and try to correct it by dumping more fuel into the system. So the computer thinks your running lean, dumps more fuel into the system making you run rich. All due to the exhaust leak.
Understood. Looks like a pita to fix. lol
#39
It's not even remotely cold today and after Idling for 20+ mins, this "steam" never let up. The mechanic told me I probably had water in my mufflers. Does anyone else's car do this? Is this a ford thing? It's driving me crazy.
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