4.6 Crown Vic to Mustang question
#11
Great info guys! Thanks for all the help. Found a civilian 02 Crown Vic with 75000 miles for $350 (The ladies ex had taken a baseball bat to it. People are insane!) Can't beat that deal (in this area at least). Hopefully going to pick that up this weekend and get this thing back on the road!
#12
Great info guys! Thanks for all the help. Found a civilian 02 Crown Vic with 75000 miles for $350 (The ladies ex had taken a baseball bat to it. People are insane!) Can't beat that deal (in this area at least). Hopefully going to pick that up this weekend and get this thing back on the road!
#14
On a side note, from the info I'm looking at my 97 GT (VIN X) should have a Windsor, but if I'm counting my cam cover bolts right (11) it indicates a Romeo. Probably a previous swap....which I'm hoping should mean a 6 bolt crank and easier swap with fewer parts to buy (unless I'm getting bad info, which is not entirely impossible). I guess I'll find out this weekend when I rip her apart! Thanks again for all the help everybody! Excited to get into this project!
#15
I have a 96gt, I did PI head swap on mine, my heads and intake were off an 01 police interceptor which got rear ended pretty good, but the engine had lower miles on it. As far as your engine in the car now it should be a Romeo not a Windsor. They did not put Windsor engines in tell a few years later. Your crown vic motor should be a Romeo also which makes life much easier because everything basically bolts up. You may need to get a different coolant crossover tube and a coolant nipple to fit deeper pi intake. Also I believe I needed a alternator bracket and an oil dip stick tube. Also make sure you use all new upper gaskets and also new head bolts.
#16
Thanks again everybody. Swap is done. Not a bad job and I love the results! This engine was super clean inside and out. Couldn't be happier with it. Here are my findings in hopes they might help others searching this info out.
As mentioned by many before me the intakes on the CVs are set up to suck in on the left side. I found though that after removing everything bolted to it, my mustang TB and everything else fit on perfect, so I just swapped that stuff over. Pretty sure the plastic intake manifold is the exact same part from stang to Vic. Little bit different coolant tube going back to the heater core left me scratching my head for a bit. Luckily for me I work in a shop and we keep lots of scrap hose around for when we need something prebent and I was able to make something work there. I'm sure there are other approaches to this.
I also swapped my mustang dipstick tube over.
Used my mustang oil pan.
Of course I swapped my coils and wires instead of the coil-on plug of the newer vic motor. Much easier than swapping computers.
One thing I never saw mentioned was the timing cover. The newer style doesn't fit the mounting brackets for the coil packs, Not a biggie but make sure you have a new timing cover gasket ready to swap that over as well.
As mentioned in the previous post the alternator bracket doesn't work but the one off your mustang can be drilled and modified to do the job.
Exhaust manifolds get swapped from your pony to the new engine.
And of course, the drilling and tapping of the crossover tube for the second sensor. Easy job there. 9/16" drill bit. 3/8" NPT tap and you're in. Make sure to take the green sensor from your mustang intake and put it in the existing hole in the newer intake. The gray sensor already in the new intake will plug in, but you won't get a proper reading on your dash gauge. The gray sensor from your mustang will go in the new hole.
New gaskets on everything that get's disturbed of course, and I did valve cover gaskets as well just because they looked like they would be a pain to change later if they started leaking.
I think I'm getting most of it. If I remember more I'll throw it up here later.
As mentioned by many before me the intakes on the CVs are set up to suck in on the left side. I found though that after removing everything bolted to it, my mustang TB and everything else fit on perfect, so I just swapped that stuff over. Pretty sure the plastic intake manifold is the exact same part from stang to Vic. Little bit different coolant tube going back to the heater core left me scratching my head for a bit. Luckily for me I work in a shop and we keep lots of scrap hose around for when we need something prebent and I was able to make something work there. I'm sure there are other approaches to this.
I also swapped my mustang dipstick tube over.
Used my mustang oil pan.
Of course I swapped my coils and wires instead of the coil-on plug of the newer vic motor. Much easier than swapping computers.
One thing I never saw mentioned was the timing cover. The newer style doesn't fit the mounting brackets for the coil packs, Not a biggie but make sure you have a new timing cover gasket ready to swap that over as well.
As mentioned in the previous post the alternator bracket doesn't work but the one off your mustang can be drilled and modified to do the job.
Exhaust manifolds get swapped from your pony to the new engine.
And of course, the drilling and tapping of the crossover tube for the second sensor. Easy job there. 9/16" drill bit. 3/8" NPT tap and you're in. Make sure to take the green sensor from your mustang intake and put it in the existing hole in the newer intake. The gray sensor already in the new intake will plug in, but you won't get a proper reading on your dash gauge. The gray sensor from your mustang will go in the new hole.
New gaskets on everything that get's disturbed of course, and I did valve cover gaskets as well just because they looked like they would be a pain to change later if they started leaking.
I think I'm getting most of it. If I remember more I'll throw it up here later.
#17
I'm putting a 2009 2v PI CV motor in my 2001 GT soon (it's en route from a salvage yard, 32k miles on it). I'll let you guys know how that goes, but with everything swapped off the Mustang engine (including intake manifold and valve covers), I imagine it will be pretty straightforward.
Edit: I realize this isn't an upgrade, but my motor got hydrolocked... :/ If anything, maybe I'll gain some slight amount of power from better compression (lower miles).
Edit: I realize this isn't an upgrade, but my motor got hydrolocked... :/ If anything, maybe I'll gain some slight amount of power from better compression (lower miles).
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