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Old 06-06-2016, 04:58 PM
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passenger side head first cam journal where it actually seats it. all it takes is loosening the 2 bolts 1/4 turn and it spins free when I tighten them hand tight it freezes. I've fine sanded and re polished the sides and still freezing. i think some how warped it slightly, is there any way i might be able to reshape this something like a cylinder honing device.
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:52 PM
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Just a guess from someone who has never disassembled one of these.Couldn't this be a distorted cam rather than a journal issue?
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Old 06-06-2016, 07:05 PM
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DId you swap cams, or just have them off?

Did you make sure to keep track of where all the jornal caps went?

You need to use a set of calipers and a micrometer and take messurements of the cam lobe in about 3 different locations around the cam, and take messurements of the cam jornal with the cap on and cam out. Im not certain what the specs are on them , but I would guess that the mesurments should be very very close, maybe +/- .001 that should tell you if they are still round.
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Old 06-06-2016, 09:45 PM
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now that you have sanded the cam journals, you may as well throw the heads away. take them into a machine shop, and maybe, just maybe, they can repair them for you
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Old 06-07-2016, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jwog666
now that you have sanded the cam journals, you may as well throw the heads away. take them into a machine shop, and maybe, just maybe, they can repair them for you
That's what I was thinking.
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Old 06-07-2016, 06:08 AM
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I sanded the sides it was noticeable bent outward grinding the cam lobe. even put ink on it to pick up exact spots. I have not sanded the actual inside of journal and i am sanding with super fine steel wool and 1500 grit sand paper if I took more than a 0.01 off than I must me superman. now if the sides are damaged I'm guessing I must have got the cam bound against first journal one time when I seated or removed.

I don't have any of the measuring tools and I bet together they cost more than a hour worth of work from my local guy here so I will just drop it off to him. I got my flywheel, local shop had a aluminum fly laying around 100 buck then another shop resurfaced for 40=)
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Old 06-07-2016, 09:02 AM
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You have bigger nuts than me. I wouldn't have attempted any of this. I spent the money on a long block for this very reason.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:38 AM
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well when your disabled living on 900 a month you do what you can, no way i could have com up with the additional 3k for the pre built 900 block.

I would rather say I tried and failed than to never have a chance.
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Old 06-07-2016, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Drastang
well when your disabled living on 900 a month you do what you can, no way i could have com up with the additional 3k for the pre built 900 block.

I would rather say I tried and failed than to never have a chance.
I'm not throwing you under the bus, I'm just pointing out it takes some sack to get after it like that.
I don't have the 900 either. Haha. I only got the 600 streetmod.
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Old 06-07-2016, 02:45 PM
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yeah I get ya. was just trying to get people to see why I am taking the risk doing it myself even if I work on this another 2 months and have to buy a new head still better than never doing it.
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