Acer2428

Discuss!



I would vote a hesitant yes.

With the 3v out for good, the aftermarket has hit the 05's hardcore. No one will come out with heads for the 2v's now and the intakes seem to be race only. The 4.6L was always an "FI" only engine due to lack of displacement. VT has done its part, but they're still stock castings. The new 3v's are not only an extra 40hp but it's not a matter of a simple PI swap like the 25hp jump from 98 to 99. The 3v's not only start off with more hp, but benefit more from each mod than the matching 2v car. A 350rwhp s/c'd 2v is a little bit above, if not equal to about a full bolt on 3v, is it not? And this is only the first year of production. I imagine they will get bigger and badder and the aftermarket will follow suit.

I am in no way saying the 2v's can't be fast, but sandiwched between the venerable 5.slow with its huge aftermarket and the more powerful 3v, is it a lost cause?

As I said, discuss:

P.S. 05, 06 owners, Keep it in your pants please (NO FLAME WARS)

pj1010

Not at all....not until the 3vs aren't ugly as sin.

Acer2428

Thanks for the info! You made a helpful contribution to the discussion. This was clearly a discussion of engines, not of personal body preference.

Voodoo

Can you put a 3 valve head and cam on a 2v motor. If you can then it's a done deal. The 3v motor is just a 01 Cobra block isn't it?

n/a_threat

I'm not sure about a lost cause, but Ford did a good job with the new 3v v8. Look at their new v6 too! 210 bhp 4.0 liter! That's only 50 shy of a stock 99-04 v8. I see what you are saying, but luckily there are s/c and nos.

I like the 2v just for the fact that there are less moving parts to break like a 3v or 4v!

pj1010

It's a lost cause just like any other engine. Eventually something better comes out to take it's place.

JD1969

I feel that the down side to the 2v was the intake runner desighn and the compromises that had to be made because of packaging considerations (it's tall, wide motor and needed to fit a varity of platforms). The reason that 2v's respond so well to blowers and turbos is that intake runner efficiancy becomes less of an issue with a F/I engine (the blower masks the poor flowing intake). Add 1 more (or as in the Mach1, two more) valves and the 4.6 wakes right up. I agree with you though in that I don't see the after market going crazy and offering a much in the way of heads for the 2v in the future. Just my marginal $.02

pj1010

That was my first thought. This seems to be an arugment of which heads not the motor itself.

Aixtreme89

I dont think the 4.6 2v is a lost cause. There will still be companys that make aftermarket parts for it. Because there is a market for it, there are people who want to buy those parts. The 5.0 has been stopped in production since 1996, thats 10 years ago. I still see parts and new blocks coming out for that motor. I think the reason 3v's got so much attention from the aftermarket companies because they relieze the people that buy these cars are going to buy the. They look at people with the 5.0's and 2v's. But I beieve you can also put the 3v heads and intake on our blocks. Well the two valve was deffinitly replaced for a more efficient SOHC motor. But I have now worries that the aftermarket company will not stop producing products for our motors.

Dark_Horse

ya there is a about a 430HP limit on 2Vs. while the 4Vs make a lot more power. I think the 2v's are on there way out the door. i dont think that there will be very many (if any) parts comming out for the 2v's, 4vs maybe, and 3v's forsure.