12's in a 2v on a budget...vid up!
#101
RE: 12's in a 2v on a budget...vid up!
ORIGINAL: Texas_Hot_Rods
Eibach's will work well as they are progressives. That means that they have different coil rates from top to bottom allowing multiple compression rates as they compress the coils. This allows you to have a lowered stance with a decent ride. This will also allow decent launches for a non drag specific spring set up. Good luck, I'd go with the pro kit NOT the sportlines.
ORIGINAL: H0SS302
Hey THR, im about to have full boltons,(intake, upper intake, full exhaust) with 410s and bullitt shock/struts and roush lower control arms.
im looking for springs that will give me good weight transfer, BUT still be able to handle well. is there such a spring or am i dreaming?
Hey THR, im about to have full boltons,(intake, upper intake, full exhaust) with 410s and bullitt shock/struts and roush lower control arms.
im looking for springs that will give me good weight transfer, BUT still be able to handle well. is there such a spring or am i dreaming?
#102
RE: 12's in a 2v on a budget...vid up!
ORIGINAL: bluepony4.6
It's all good on this end. She's still runnin' solid and has adjusted well to the altitude here. I can't find any good dyno tuners around here except for the (gulp....) import guys. Just saving up the pennies for some forced induction. I'll be in touch soon.
ORIGINAL: Texas_Hot_Rods
SUP big T! How that 6 conversion treatin ya? Had a chance to get it dialed in at the new altitude? Keep in touch with some pics. you can PM or email.
SUP big T! How that 6 conversion treatin ya? Had a chance to get it dialed in at the new altitude? Keep in touch with some pics. you can PM or email.
#103
RE: 12's in a 2v on a budget...vid up!
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Ford Motorsport "B"springs are progressive"C" springs are linear.
Linear springs...no matter how hard you compress them, they will always have the same resistance
Progressive springs...the harder you compress them, the more resistive they become...thats why the progressive springs have a 425-530 lb/in rating...first inch they are 425 in/lb and then get more resistive after that
The reason the progressive springs are good for stock strutsis because they do part of the dampining. Linear springs do not do any of the dampening.
Make sense?
The softer B springs would allow for more stored energy for launching the car thus improving weight transfer. The stiffer the spring the less stored energy for launching the car and hence less weight transfer.
If you're looking for track times, then stick with the softer springs. If you want handling then go for the stiffer springs.
Here's the specs...
M-5300-C:
Lowers 1979-94 Mustangs - Front .875" - Rear .5"
Lowers 1994-04 Mustangs - Front 1.125" - Rear .750"
Spring Rate - Front 650 - Rear 200/300
M-5300-B:
Lowers 1979-94 Mustangs - Front .875" - Rear .5"
Lowers 1994-04 Mustangs - Front 1.125" - Rear .750"
Spring Rate - Front 425/530 - Rear 200/300
More Specifically here's a few more rates for comparison sake...
Stock Spring Rates
Model/Year
Front Spring Rate (lb/in)
Rear Spring Rate (lb/in)
Mustang GT/V6 Coupe 1994-2004
450 (linear)
210 (linear, solid axle)
Mustang GT/V6 Vert. 1994-2004
400 (linear)
185 (linear, solid axle)
Mustang Cobra Coupe 1999-2001
500 (linear)
475 (linear, IRS)
Mustang Cobra Coupe 2003-2004
600 (linear)
600 (linear, IRS)
Mustang Cobra Vert. 2003-2004
500 (linear)
470 (linear, IRS)
Mustang Mach1 Coupe 2003-2004
600 (linear)
250 (linear, solid axle)
Mustang Bullitt Coupe 2001-20022
600 (linear)
250 (linear, solid axle)
Aftermarket Spring Rates
Manufacturer/Part Info
Front Spring Rate (lb/in)
Rear Spring Rate (lb/in)
Ford Racing B Springs (M5300B)
425-530 (progressive)
200-300 (progressive, solid axle)
Ford Racing C Springs (M5300C)
650 (linear)
200-300 (progressive, solid axle)
Ford Racing F Springs (M5300F)
460-570 (progressive)
170-310 (progressive, solid axle)
Ford Racing G Springs (M5300G)
500-570 (progressive)
170-310 (progressive, solid axle)
Eibach Pro-Kit Springs (94-04 Mustangs)
425-530 (progressive)
200-300 (progressive, solid axle)
Eibach Sportline Springs (79-04 Mustangs)
425-630 (progressive)
140-295 (progressive, solid axle)
H&R Sport Springs (94-04 Mustangs)
490-575 (progressive)
205-250 (progressive, solid axle)
H&R Sport Springs (99-04 Cobra)
700-760 (progressive)
685 (linear, IRS)
H&R Super Sport Springs (94-04 Mustangs)
700-760 (progressive)
275-300 (progressive, solid axle)
H&R Race Springs (79-04 Mustangs)
750-850 (progressive)
260-280 (progressive, solid axle)
H&R Race Springs (99-04 Cobra)
750-850 (progressive)
770 (linear, IRS)
Steeda Sport Springs (79-04 Mustangs)
650 (linear)
200-250 (progressive, solid axle)
Steeda Sport Springs (03-04 Cobra)
720-780 (progressive)
650-790 (progressive, IRS)
Steeda Competition Springs (79-04 Mustangs)
750-850 (progressive)
250 (linear, solid axle)
StangSuspension Springs (94-04 Mustangs)
490-575 (progressive)
205-250 (progressive, solid axle)
Hope this helps...Brian
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Ford Motorsport "B"springs are progressive"C" springs are linear.
Linear springs...no matter how hard you compress them, they will always have the same resistance
Progressive springs...the harder you compress them, the more resistive they become...thats why the progressive springs have a 425-530 lb/in rating...first inch they are 425 in/lb and then get more resistive after that
The reason the progressive springs are good for stock strutsis because they do part of the dampining. Linear springs do not do any of the dampening.
Make sense?
The softer B springs would allow for more stored energy for launching the car thus improving weight transfer. The stiffer the spring the less stored energy for launching the car and hence less weight transfer.
If you're looking for track times, then stick with the softer springs. If you want handling then go for the stiffer springs.
Here's the specs...
M-5300-C:
Lowers 1979-94 Mustangs - Front .875" - Rear .5"
Lowers 1994-04 Mustangs - Front 1.125" - Rear .750"
Spring Rate - Front 650 - Rear 200/300
M-5300-B:
Lowers 1979-94 Mustangs - Front .875" - Rear .5"
Lowers 1994-04 Mustangs - Front 1.125" - Rear .750"
Spring Rate - Front 425/530 - Rear 200/300
More Specifically here's a few more rates for comparison sake...
Progressive Rate vs. Linear Rate Springs - A linear rate spring has a constant spring rating, no matter how much the spring is compressed, for example 600lb/in. This means that for every 600 pounds of pressure, there will be 1 inch of spring compression. A progressive rate spring will have a variable spring rate, for example 425-630lb/in. This means that it may take 425 pounds for 1 inch of compression, but as the spring compresses more it will rise to as much as 630 pounds of pressure. To put it simply, the spring "progressively" gets stiffer as it is compressed.
Note - Spring rates are estimates based on various independent tests. StangSuspension cannot confirm the accuracy of these tests.
Stock Spring Rates
Model/Year
Front Spring Rate (lb/in)
Rear Spring Rate (lb/in)
Mustang GT/V6 Coupe 1994-2004
450 (linear)
210 (linear, solid axle)
Mustang GT/V6 Vert. 1994-2004
400 (linear)
185 (linear, solid axle)
Mustang Cobra Coupe 1999-2001
500 (linear)
475 (linear, IRS)
Mustang Cobra Coupe 2003-2004
600 (linear)
600 (linear, IRS)
Mustang Cobra Vert. 2003-2004
500 (linear)
470 (linear, IRS)
Mustang Mach1 Coupe 2003-2004
600 (linear)
250 (linear, solid axle)
Mustang Bullitt Coupe 2001-20022
600 (linear)
250 (linear, solid axle)
Aftermarket Spring Rates
Manufacturer/Part Info
Front Spring Rate (lb/in)
Rear Spring Rate (lb/in)
Ford Racing B Springs (M5300B)
425-530 (progressive)
200-300 (progressive, solid axle)
Ford Racing C Springs (M5300C)
650 (linear)
200-300 (progressive, solid axle)
Ford Racing F Springs (M5300F)
460-570 (progressive)
170-310 (progressive, solid axle)
Ford Racing G Springs (M5300G)
500-570 (progressive)
170-310 (progressive, solid axle)
Eibach Pro-Kit Springs (94-04 Mustangs)
425-530 (progressive)
200-300 (progressive, solid axle)
Eibach Sportline Springs (79-04 Mustangs)
425-630 (progressive)
140-295 (progressive, solid axle)
H&R Sport Springs (94-04 Mustangs)
490-575 (progressive)
205-250 (progressive, solid axle)
H&R Sport Springs (99-04 Cobra)
700-760 (progressive)
685 (linear, IRS)
H&R Super Sport Springs (94-04 Mustangs)
700-760 (progressive)
275-300 (progressive, solid axle)
H&R Race Springs (79-04 Mustangs)
750-850 (progressive)
260-280 (progressive, solid axle)
H&R Race Springs (99-04 Cobra)
750-850 (progressive)
770 (linear, IRS)
Steeda Sport Springs (79-04 Mustangs)
650 (linear)
200-250 (progressive, solid axle)
Steeda Sport Springs (03-04 Cobra)
720-780 (progressive)
650-790 (progressive, IRS)
Steeda Competition Springs (79-04 Mustangs)
750-850 (progressive)
250 (linear, solid axle)
StangSuspension Springs (94-04 Mustangs)
490-575 (progressive)
205-250 (progressive, solid axle)
Hope this helps...Brian
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#104
RE: 12's in a 2v on a budget...vid up!
My name is stacy and I have 2 stangs one is a 95 cobra with a d1sc procharger e cam and canfield heads , I dont have any track times its still in the shop... But my dd is a 2004 gt its always felt the part of a 16 second car kinda sluggish off the line ... I ran it with my mt et drags a week ago , it also has a bisanni o/r x pipe , and a pieced together cai, and 3.73 gears .. 14.29 @95.11mph is all she would do with a 5000rpm launch ....I did some math on your 12.0 second pass in the same air as my car is running in and it is figuring up around a 12.6 at 106mph ... here are some figures im trying to do up here on the plains do you think its possible?
lets try some dragstrip math
2004gt 5000rpm launch =14.29 @95mph lol<4400' air
70mm tb + plenum +underdrive pullies and aluminum driveshaft =26hp and .29 better in the 1/4 mile
so with a 6000 rpm 1.75 60' launch =13.65at 99mph
next mods being long tubes and mid pipe 35hp = 0.36 better in the 1/4 mile =13.29 at 102mph
next mods being 90/10 struts 10 way strange shocks control arms and weld front wheels , cat back or mufflers and
and loose all junk in trunk 100lbs worth , id say .0.31 seconds better? and get a 1.65 60' =13.15 at 103mph
last timming adjuster and lightning 90mm mass air meter and a tune , 0.19 seconds better..
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could this car run a 12.79 at 104.85 in lubbock without heads or cam work ?
lets try some dragstrip math
2004gt 5000rpm launch =14.29 @95mph lol<4400' air
70mm tb + plenum +underdrive pullies and aluminum driveshaft =26hp and .29 better in the 1/4 mile
so with a 6000 rpm 1.75 60' launch =13.65at 99mph
next mods being long tubes and mid pipe 35hp = 0.36 better in the 1/4 mile =13.29 at 102mph
next mods being 90/10 struts 10 way strange shocks control arms and weld front wheels , cat back or mufflers and
and loose all junk in trunk 100lbs worth , id say .0.31 seconds better? and get a 1.65 60' =13.15 at 103mph
last timming adjuster and lightning 90mm mass air meter and a tune , 0.19 seconds better..
.
could this car run a 12.79 at 104.85 in lubbock without heads or cam work ?