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I'm sure there alot of you had this one to think about.
At first the na way sounded cheaper - most mods don't require any more time to install since I am rebuilding. Hoping to see around 400 hp at flywheel. I have a vert so I'm not sure how much torque the frame can take.
NA
TF heads and cams 2500
Headers LT and OR X pipe around 1200
3700
might need TF intake man/plenum and TB to hit 400 1000
4700
SC
I guess you are looking at about 4500 - 5000 for a kit
Would I have to rebuild other than stock to reduce compression?extra $!
Do you really need forged rods and crank. I ve heard both answers. People say its tough to hurt the crank and that the stock rods are good till 600 hp.
Do I need to worry about any other bolt ons - including headers to make the power with a sc. Would be nice to not have to worry about emissions.
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I'm sure there alot of you had this one to think about.
At first the na way sounded cheaper - most mods don't require any more time to install since I am rebuilding. Hoping to see around 400 hp at flywheel. I have a vert so I'm not sure how much torque the frame can take.
NA
TF heads and cams 2500
Headers LT and OR X pipe around 1200
3700
might need TF intake man/plenum and TB to hit 400 1000
4700
SC
I guess you are looking at about 4500 - 5000 for a kit
Would I have to rebuild other than stock to reduce compression?extra $!
Do you really need forged rods and crank. I ve heard both answers. People say its tough to hurt the crank and that the stock rods are good till 600 hp.
Do I need to worry about any other bolt ons - including headers to make the power with a sc. Would be nice to not have to worry about emissions.
I don't think you'll be making 400hp staying N/A, would be a much better route IMO to go with a SC and hit the 400hp goal easily, and these motors are rated to 450hp, so 400 is kind of the sweet spot, I wouldn't want to get any closer than that on stock internals personally.
Headers will help the engine breath better, and you'll notice some power, and adds a nice sound too along with an O/R pipe.
So I say S/C and full exhaust and have some fun, and gears if you don't have them. Then suspension mods to put all the power to the ground.
also depends on what S/C you get that might allow you some more play room with your money. You could buy a KB intercooled kit for 5k and meet your power goals, or buy a vortec or procharger kit, or even piece one together and spend maybe a little more than half that much and still have money to spend on exhaust and what ever else you would want. Just a thought
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If you plan on throwing down over 400 at the tires, go with the forged internals. I've never heard anyone say that the rods are good til 600hp. As for the crank, the cobra cranks are pretty reliable. I don't know what ours will take, but being that I haven't seen anyone throw in forged rods and pistons without a new crank along with it, I'm gonna bet you should get a forged crank as well. As for going NA or SC, you'll never hit the numbers NA that you can with the right blower.
I'm sure there alot of you had this one to think about.
At first the na way sounded cheaper - most mods don't require any more time to install since I am rebuilding. Hoping to see around 400 hp at flywheel. I have a vert so I'm not sure how much torque the frame can take.
NA
TF heads and cams 2500
Headers LT and OR X pipe around 1200
3700
might need TF intake man/plenum and TB to hit 400 1000
4700
SC
I guess you are looking at about 4500 - 5000 for a kit
Would I have to rebuild other than stock to reduce compression?extra $!
Do you really need forged rods and crank. I ve heard both answers. People say its tough to hurt the crank and that the stock rods are good till 600 hp.
Do I need to worry about any other bolt ons - including headers to make the power with a sc. Would be nice to not have to worry about emissions.
haha same page here man. I always think about that- wether to go S/C or N/A.
I just don't feel it's right to throw a S/C on a stock engine other than exhaust and idk why I feel like that haha. I would like to save the FI till the end. Sure, imma regret it when a super charged car burns me, but there's something bout N/A that's just fun.
I wanna get heads, cams better everything internaly and then put that S/C on with a feeling of no regret in the future. idk when that cold cash hit's my hand I'll see how I feel
lol decisions decisions
well our rods are actually the weakest part. they go at 450. i tihnk our pistons start to go around 500.
I personally am staying naturally aspirated. i just like the thought of a high reving motor going down the strip and maybe suprising a few people. Im gonna rework my bottom end and get some TF head friendly cams and see if she wont make 380rwhp+. and still be a DD.
Doing an N/A modular will leave you full of disappointment... with an empty wallet
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I love the sound of some cams compared to the whistle of some SC's and 400 HP at the flywheel should fill the need.....but
It sure would sting to put $7K into an NA rebuild and not be able to handle a LS1, when theres up to a possible 500+ HP @RW from a KB for a few dollars more!
full bolt-ons (minus heads, and a TB) only net'ed me about 288wrhp (w/ full bolt-ons i wouldn't expect any more then 320wrhp). Everything I have done has cost well over what I would of paid for just a S/C kit.
now, 1 and a half years later, and after every bolt on (for the most part), I kinda see the point in just saving up and going FI (if speed is what you are looking for, and not really just "sound" and looks, haha)
just my .02. either way you will have fun. either way you will be left wanting more...
Im an n/a man myself; I just like the way the power comes on. I dont think driving around at 400hp for a DD is very practical so spending 4 grand on good heads/cams/ intake would be worth it to me.
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rebuild on 2v - stay na or sc pros and cons
