kenne bell diff gears
#24
id go 3.73 MAX. my 1st gear is already short in my car, when i launch at the track its not long before i shift, iff i was making 440rwtq at 2k it would be rediculous.
bottom line is, can you make it hook with a steeper gear? well yea..get some slicks
will it be annoying shifting all the time? probably so, thats why cobras came with the longer gear T56 and 3.55's....
bottom line is, can you make it hook with a steeper gear? well yea..get some slicks
will it be annoying shifting all the time? probably so, thats why cobras came with the longer gear T56 and 3.55's....
#25
You go right ahead say what you want. Anyone thats been on here this long should know the rule of thumb is that you should run 4.10's or higher with n/a cars, 3.90 or lower for centri cars, and 3.73's or lower for twin screw cars. You dont need 4.10's in a twin screw car at all. You get the instant torque at any rpm so its not like it has a power band or anything that you have to get up into. whether youre at 2000rpm or 5500rpm, you'll be making the same amount of torque pretty much so its kinda pointless to have all that gear and have you top out your car at 110 at the top of 4th when you could be topping out at 140 and getting traction to get there in a timely manor. I'd bet you would even say that 3.55's for a turbo car would be wrong too...
But seeing as I know nothing at all and you are all-knowing, i guess none of that is valid info.
But seeing as I know nothing at all and you are all-knowing, i guess none of that is valid info.
If you ask anyone with a blower and 350rwhp or more that doesn't have a decent tire/susp combo, they will tell you about how 1st and 2nd gear are basically useless art WOT. It doesn't matter the type of blower, it doesn't matter the gear ratio, the guy is not gonna hook on street tires.
The guy is going to have trouble hooking his car now and even more-so in the future when he raises the boost no matter what gear ratio he has if he doesn't get some decent suspension and tires on there. Makes much more sense to address those thing sfirst and see how the gears treat him than just swapping out gears until he finds a combination that works.
#29
Hey, I know basically nothing about running turbo cars. Won't even touch that one. But I have experience running 4.10s and running them with a blower. I'm pretty sure you don't. By your consensus that 4.10s or higher for N/A cars, then he should be just fine cause around 350rwhp is about the limit of a streetable N/A build.
If you ask anyone with a blower and 350rwhp or more that doesn't have a decent tire/susp combo, they will tell you about how 1st and 2nd gear are basically useless art WOT. It doesn't matter the type of blower, it doesn't matter the gear ratio, the guy is not gonna hook on street tires.
The guy is going to have trouble hooking his car now and even more-so in the future when he raises the boost no matter what gear ratio he has if he doesn't get some decent suspension and tires on there. Makes much more sense to address those thing sfirst and see how the gears treat him than just swapping out gears until he finds a combination that works.
If you ask anyone with a blower and 350rwhp or more that doesn't have a decent tire/susp combo, they will tell you about how 1st and 2nd gear are basically useless art WOT. It doesn't matter the type of blower, it doesn't matter the gear ratio, the guy is not gonna hook on street tires.
The guy is going to have trouble hooking his car now and even more-so in the future when he raises the boost no matter what gear ratio he has if he doesn't get some decent suspension and tires on there. Makes much more sense to address those thing sfirst and see how the gears treat him than just swapping out gears until he finds a combination that works.
I'm not arguing suspension and tires need to be addressed, but gears also MUST be addressed. Like boduke said, termies came with 3.55's and a 2.97 1st gear ratio for a reason...instant torque is not fun with street tires and steep gears like 4.10's. Our cars have a 3.38 1st gear ratio and then you add on top of that the 4.10's...thats like having a terminator T56 using higher than a 4.56 rear gear with stock power! Do you think that is smart. Hell no thats not smart! Even us running a 3.55 rear gear is like a cobra running 4.10's! And I do have experience with that as pretty much all my mustang friends around my area have termies and the one is strugling hooking up on slicks at the track with spherical/spherical control arms(team z) and coilovers, and thats an upper pulley only car. making 480rwhp
Also, my friend with a 2.76 upper pulley and bolt-ons, which is a 475rwhp car hooks up just fine with stock gears and no suspension mods besides cut springs and street tires. So street tires can handle the abuse of decent hp you just have to go out and buy decent tires and not go suckyhomos just because they are cheap.