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Old 04-27-2011, 07:44 AM   #1
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Default American Muscle wheels vibration problem

Anyone else have wheels from AM? I got a set of the saleens, put brand new toyos on them and the thing shakes like all hell on the highway now. Used to be perfectly smooth on the factory wheels with Nokians. Is this the nature of the cheap chinese wheels, or should I expect a little more, I kinda figured they would be better than this to be honest; I really doubt it's the tires. I work at a tires dealer and they guys know how **** I am so they balenced the wheels/tires perfect, but they still shake. Any ideas?

The only other thing was I put my Eibach Pro kit (just the springs for now) on at the same time. I'll be getting an alignment next week, but I doubt that would have anything to do with it, could it?



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Well a VERY long 4 month 14 wheel story short, the wheels are chinese and the chinese cannot be trusted haha. American Muscle while some things could have been handled differently, came through in the end and made it right. They're a great bunch and I will definitely buy their products again.

The problem the whole time were that the wheels were not true. To anybody who has this problem, the first thing you HAVE to do and maybe even before you mount the tires the first time, is spin the wheels on the balancer to make sure they spin true. If they wobble bad, send them back, if it's just a hair they're fine and you can run them. Any questions in the future please feel free to PM me and I'll do my best to help out.

Hope this thread helps someone else out in the future and that they don't have to go through what I did.

Amendment from post 248... I will never order from these guys again. End of story. The wheels are complete junk and they promise things and do not come through, as seen by many bbb filed complaints. I will be ordering from other vendors from now on, there are so many out there I'm not getting hung up on just one who can't even hold true to their word.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:52 AM   #2
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Get an alignment and have your wheels balanced. And make sure your have the right lug nuts!
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Tire balancing is used to balance not only the tire, but also the wheel. I would have them rebalanced.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:57 AM   #4
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I got my rims and tires from AM, and i have the pro kit as well (stock suspension for now too) and have no issues at all. When i went for my alignment the guy told me everything was within spec, and i was good to go.
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Did you remove the silly washers on the hub?
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Did you remove the silly washers on the hub?
I'm gunna say no, because I don't know what the hell that is haha what are they and where are they?
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:11 AM   #7
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Tire balancing is used to balance not only the tire, but also the wheel. I would have them rebalanced.
Yeah that's why I was suprised it was so far off. I'll try going to another store we have with a better newer balencer. I'll do the alignment first though.

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Get an alignment and have your wheels balanced. And make sure your have the right lug nuts!
I have the black lug nuts from AM, those are correct right? haha
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On your hub wheel studs came a silly little washer or two on the one or more of the studs. If there are any on. Take them off.
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Your car needs an alignment. That is the reason the car is shaking like it is.
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Alignments wont really cause a shake unless its freakin driving sideways. Is the shake at higher speeds 50+? If so, Get the tires balanced with a good machine
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The car drives perfectly straight still, and honestly I'm starting to think a tire is out of round or something, I feel it even at lower speeds. I'll check for washers right now.
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Weird, before the rims at AM smooth as glass now I have a slight wobble above 50mph.
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I bought (4) 17x9 Bullitt wheels from AM and a pair of 17x10.5 Bullitt wheels from AM and all of them were great!

I would double check the balancing first.
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+1 alignment wont cause a shake, especially if it drove fine before the wheels tires and springs, just get them balanced.
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Well he installed lowering springs and the cc plates could have been moved during installation. I really don't think it's the wheels themselves.
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Did you remove the silly washers on the hub?
Are you talking about the washers that are put on during assembly @ Ford? Even if those happen to still be on they are not going to cause any vibration.

I'm gonna say one of the rims have a bad balance. I know some guys on SVTP are complaining about all the wheel weights needed on the AM rims to make them balance.
Also maybe one or the tires might be bad I know they are new but it is possible
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Is the step spacer installed correctly on the new after marke CC plates?
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My old rims from am had a slight shake and never really noticed it until I put other rims on. Glad I went with BBS for my new rims!
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Kmelfi got new wheels?!
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Are you talking about the washers that are put on during assembly @ Ford? Even if those happen to still be on they are not going to cause any vibration.
I'm gonna say one of the rims have a bad balance. I know some guys on SVTP are complaining about all the wheel weights needed on the AM rims to make them balance.
Also maybe one or the tires might be bad I know they are new but it is possible

Wrong. It depends on how bad this wabble is. Do as Moonshine and I are suggesting. Take the wheels off and look for the washer on at least one of the wheels studs.

It happened to me when I got 18" saleen wheels from Cruzin Concepts. I also thought about a balancing issue, using right lug nuts, torquing the nuts right etc. It all came down to taking those washers off. Especially if you know you have stock untouched brakes. Chances are it's still on there.

You would be dumb NOT to check since it's free and only takes 30 min to check all the wheels.

Here, Page 10 post #96....pics are worth 1000 words. These were from Cruizin Concepts, but I wouldn;t doubt if they use the same vendor.
http://mustangforums.com/forum/4-6l-...inions-10.html
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