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Old 02-17-2012, 09:00 PM   #61
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No worries. I spent a lot of time deciding between a couple of LCAs, including MM and UPR. Looking at the design, both are very similar with a (poly)urethane bushing at one end, spherical bearing at the other. The main benefit of both LCAs is to free up the inherent bind of the stock suspension (will help in the twisties) and cut down on wheel hop (will help in the 1/4 mile). The main difference came down to price, where the UPR LCA was the clear winner. And if it breaks (haven't heard of any problems with LCAs) there is always a lifetime guarantee.
I entirely know the reasons for choosing aftermarket suspension parts, I had the full mm max grip kit before I decided to go with an IRS setup. The problem isn't with their warranties/guarantees but with the fact that there have been several cases of suspension components breaking under light to heavy use. I do not know if UPR has addressed all issues with failed components but I sincerely hope you do not have to experience it (almost any company has failure rates, just have heard UPR mentioned more than most companies, with the exception of GMS).

Sorry if it seems like I'm bashing UPR, I am all for aftermarket companies, they've created a lot of nice parts and have a pretty successful drag racing team/sponsored vehicles.

I think you've done a great job on choosing parts, was just wondering your reasoning behind it.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:06 PM   #62
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I'll be sure to post a review after putting them through some thorough usage (track and 1/4).
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:29 AM   #63
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How much should I be looking to recoop from selling the stock rear end parts (axles, LSD, stock LCAs, etc...)?
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:34 AM   #64
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I had the full mm max grip kit before I decided to go with an IRS setup.
Why the switch? Was it drastically better/different when u had the IRS?
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love da list of mods wish i could do that 2 mine lol
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How much should I be looking to recoop from selling the stock rear end parts (axles, LSD, stock LCAs, etc...)?
Honestly, not a whole lot, a cobra owner looking to go SRA might give you a couple hundred but they can easily swap+get a little cash from swapping with someone looking to switch to an IRS setup. LCA's wont get you much as most informed sn95 owners know they're not ideal, same with the rest.

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Why the switch? Was it drastically better/different when u had the IRS?
The switch was due to me not being satisfied with the way the car rode on the road. The grip, although very close, was increased slightly due to the car feeling smoother over imperfections and giving me a slight bump in confidence.

I havent been to an hpde event since the IRS though so I can't really say for sure and since then I've driven considerably less since I've been riding more. Been thinking of getting back into driving though, so may try and make it to an hpde sometime soon.
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:21 PM   #67
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Just put the new Sumi ZIIIs (275/40/17) on the car, love the increase in grip (inc cornering).

I felt a pretty good wheel wobble on the passenger side when switching the tires, so I'm going to replace the wheel bearings (and hub assembly) next week. Came out to around $200 for everything (including buying a torque wrench and 36mm socket).

My appointment for the 3.73s, LCAs, Axles/LSD & FLSFC install is March 31st, can't wait. Grand total came out just under $600 for the whole install.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:11 AM   #68
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So my throwout bearing is nearing it's final days (and squeaking like a ****). I plan on doing the clutch while I'm in there, seeing as the stock clutch has 115k miles on it.

End game on the car most likely includes a V3, but nothing over too crazy (400HP/425Ft-lbs) so I'm looking at the HDX clutch. It's rated at 450HP (strange bc the clutch should really be rated in ft-lbs) but from the reviews, it should hold fine. Thoughts? Any preference between the two quadrants? I've heard the SR cable is a POS, so I'm sticking with the Steeda cable.

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- RAM HDX Clutch (http://www.americanmuscle.com/ram-hd...45-clutch.html)
- FRPP Steel Flywheel (http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-s...604-8bolt.html)
- FRPP Bolt & Dowel Kit (http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=8457)
- FRPP Throwout Bearing (http://www.americanmuscle.com/ford-t...ring-7904.html)
- FRPP Pilot Bearing (http://www.americanmuscle.com/ford-p...ing-96102.html)
- Steeda Adjustable Clutch Cable (http://www.americanmuscle.com/stadclca96.html)
- Steeda Quick Release Clutch Quadrant (http://www.americanmuscle.com/stqureclqu.html)
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- SR Performance Double Hook Quadrant (http://www.americanmuscle.com/stdohoqu.html)
- SR Performance Firewall Cable Adjuster (http://www.americanmuscle.com/stficaad.html)
The upgrade comes in around $650-$700 if I do the install. How much should I expect a shop to charge if I decide to go that route?
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DO NOT get an adjustable cable if you're gonna put on a firewall adjuster and new quadrant. There are many issues associated with this that can be easily discovered thru very little research. If you insist on getting a new cable, look into one as close to stock as possible.
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DO NOT get an adjustable cable if you're gonna put on a firewall adjuster and new quadrant. There are many issues associated with this that can be easily discovered thru very little research. If you insist on getting a new cable, look into one as close to stock as possible.
For the non-adjustable cable I should look at FRPP or an OEM one from the dealer then?
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http://www.uprproducts.com/mustang-n...-cable-96.html

here's the first one I found. if you can find a frpp or dealership replacement for close to that price, i would go for it.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:46 AM   #72
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http://www.uprproducts.com/mustang-n...-cable-96.html

here's the first one I found. if you can find a frpp or dealership replacement for close to that price, i would go for it.
Looks good to me. Btw, any reason why I wouldn't want to think about reusing my stock cable (115k miles on it)?

Also, any benefit of running a triple hook quadrant vs the double hook?
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To answer your first question, I assumed that you were dead set on replacing the stock cable. If it's not noticeably stretched or frayed, I see no issues with reusing it.

Second question, the difference between the two is a patent. I think Steeda had a patent on the double hook quadrant, so to get around it, UPR made a third, useless hook. I forget which one you're supposed to use, but do some research and you should easily figure it out. CliffyK actually did a write up about the triple hook quadrant, and he eventually had problems with it fraying his clutch cable. I, like him, have sanded the edges down and did not notice any fraying when I checked it after about 4-5k miles, so perhaps he missed a spot, or perhaps I'm just lucky and he is not?? I dunno if you would hafta do this with the double hook quadrant or not, but if the edges aren't smooth where the cable rests, I would sand them down as well. Since I haven't had any issues with UPR triple hook quadrant, I would recommend it since its cheaper, just heed the warning to sand down the edges wherever the cable makes contact.
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Ok, sounds like a good plan. I saw CliffyK greased the quadrant as well.

In regards to the clutch/flywheel, HDX (clutch) and FRPP (flywheel) seems like the usual suspects for clutch replacement (along with Centerforce Dual Friction, but that's double the cost). How much am I looking at for shop install, $300-400?
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Should I look into replacing the clutch fork/other items while I'm in there as well?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-clutchfork-9604.html
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I dunno about shop costs or replacing the clutch fork. I have suspicions that my clutch fork is bent/warped (either that or my cable is stretched), so whenever my clutch goes, I will be replacing mine.
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May not be a bad idea either ^^.

Found a pretty useful site for this as well:
http://www.aa1car.com/library/2003/bf50332.htm
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To answer your first question, I assumed that you were dead set on replacing the stock cable. If it's not noticeably stretched or frayed, I see no issues with reusing it.

Second question, the difference between the two is a patent. I think Steeda had a patent on the double hook quadrant, so to get around it, UPR made a third, useless hook. I forget which one you're supposed to use, but do some research and you should easily figure it out. CliffyK actually did a write up about the triple hook quadrant, and he eventually had problems with it fraying his clutch cable. I, like him, have sanded the edges down and did not notice any fraying when I checked it after about 4-5k miles, so perhaps he missed a spot, or perhaps I'm just lucky and he is not?? I dunno if you would hafta do this with the double hook quadrant or not, but if the edges aren't smooth where the cable rests, I would sand them down as well. Since I haven't had any issues with UPR triple hook quadrant, I would recommend it since its cheaper, just heed the warning to sand down the edges wherever the cable makes contact.
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Should I look into replacing the clutch fork/other items while I'm in there as well?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-clutchfork-9604.html
The clutch fork isn't really a wear item. I've gone through quite a few clutches and even a few transmissions, but I've never needed to replace the clutch fork.
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The clutch fork isn't really a wear item. I've gone through quite a few clutches and even a few transmissions, but I've never needed to replace the clutch fork.
What are the symptoms of a bad clutch fork?

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