whats all needed for gear install?
11-17-2011, 08:20 AM
#22
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For once I'm have a shop do the install (while doing gears) so I don't have to worry about the fit. So you'd suggest the carbon disc kit (http://www.americanmuscle.com/ford-88-traclok-kit.html) over the "heavy duty" LSD (http://www.americanmuscle.com/ford-r...8spline.html)?
The carbon discs are a mild upgrade over the paper for the following reasons:
quieter (this is the main reason Ford swapped to them)
increased temperature resistance
slightly increased holding capability
11-17-2011, 08:30 AM
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That's got to be some amazing paper...
11-17-2011, 09:01 AM
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No axle manufacturer will put a power rating on their 28 spline axles. However, hardened alloy axles are on average 30% stronger than OE axles. You can do the math there. On a full on drag car, 31 spline axles are rated to 650.
Now, if you remove sticky tires from the equation, power handling capability goes up. Increase weight, power handling capability goes down.
11-17-2011, 09:33 AM
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That, my friend, is a loaded question! So many variables come in to play when looking at holding capability, like intended usage, tires, vehicle weight, gear ratio, suspension, etc.
No axle manufacturer will put a power rating on their 28 spline axles. However, hardened alloy axles are on average 30% stronger than OE axles. You can do the math there. On a full on drag car, 31 spline axles are rated to 650.
Now, if you remove sticky tires from the equation, power handling capability goes up. Increase weight, power handling capability goes down.
No axle manufacturer will put a power rating on their 28 spline axles. However, hardened alloy axles are on average 30% stronger than OE axles. You can do the math there. On a full on drag car, 31 spline axles are rated to 650.
Now, if you remove sticky tires from the equation, power handling capability goes up. Increase weight, power handling capability goes down.
The "stickiest" tire I'd run is a high performance summer tire, and with a HP goal of ~350rwhp sounds like the 28 spline axle should be plenty.
That being said, would there even be an increased cost if I went with the 31 spline? I can see buying a new LSD w/ carbon packs for $250, but I'm not aware of any of the other changes needed to switch from a 28 to a 31 (this assumes I'm buying a new axle, either 28 or 31 spline). Am I missing anything? Any draw backs, such as more rotational weight?
11-17-2011, 10:04 AM
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How about an easier question, 3.73 vs 4.10 gears? Lol, j/k.
The "stickiest" tire I'd run is a high performance summer tire, and with a HP goal of ~350rwhp sounds like the 28 spline axle should be plenty.
That being said, would there even be an increased cost if I went with the 31 spline? I can see buying a new LSD w/ carbon packs for $250, but I'm not aware of any of the other changes needed to switch from a 28 to a 31 (this assumes I'm buying a new axle, either 28 or 31 spline). Am I missing anything? Any draw backs, such as more rotational weight?
The "stickiest" tire I'd run is a high performance summer tire, and with a HP goal of ~350rwhp sounds like the 28 spline axle should be plenty.
That being said, would there even be an increased cost if I went with the 31 spline? I can see buying a new LSD w/ carbon packs for $250, but I'm not aware of any of the other changes needed to switch from a 28 to a 31 (this assumes I'm buying a new axle, either 28 or 31 spline). Am I missing anything? Any draw backs, such as more rotational weight?
I venture to say that 28 would get the job done for you. However, there is no price difference between 28 & 31 spline, so if you thought you wanted a diff anyway, no reason not to go 31.
There will be a negligible amount of added rotational weight going to 31, but not noticeable. Wouldn't even count it in my consideration.
11-17-2011, 10:31 AM
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LOL! You're a funny guy.
I venture to say that 28 would get the job done for you. However, there is no price difference between 28 & 31 spline, so if you thought you wanted a diff anyway, no reason not to go 31.
There will be a negligible amount of added rotational weight going to 31, but not noticeable. Wouldn't even count it in my consideration.
I venture to say that 28 would get the job done for you. However, there is no price difference between 28 & 31 spline, so if you thought you wanted a diff anyway, no reason not to go 31.
There will be a negligible amount of added rotational weight going to 31, but not noticeable. Wouldn't even count it in my consideration.
Last edited by Syracuse315; 11-17-2011 at 10:34 AM.
11-17-2011, 10:55 AM
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I do recommend replacing axle bearings & seals any time you put in new axles.
11-17-2011, 11:28 AM
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http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...-Lug-373-Gears
I can't tell if those are the Moser axles though...