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switching my 98 gt 4.6 with a coyote 5.0

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Old 12-25-2011, 02:02 PM   #1
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ok so as the title says looking to switch my 98 gt's 4.6 with the 2011 gt's coyote 5.0. is it even worth it or is there a better replacement motor that would give me good results? looking to do a full rebuild on the car, as in new motor trans supercharger body interior new guages the works pretty much so is the 5.0 coyote worth it or are there better engines for the 98 that require less work.

also what problems am I likely to run into doing the switch.
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Old 12-25-2011, 02:10 PM   #2
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http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-a...sc-1112gt.html this is the 5.0 I am thinking of dropping in
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:10 PM   #3
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You still need things to make that a swap into your car. Sense you say your going to S/C your car I would look for a 03/04 Cobra engine to swap into your car. People have everything you need for the swap all together on ebay all the time
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:17 PM   #4
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Id imagine thats gonna be a pretty expensive swap with the cost of the coyote motor and other things. You can make more power for far far cheaper and go with a big inch stroker windsor.
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:58 PM   #5
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id say drop in the Coyote with a 99-01 intake, get a good set of cams and tune it and say hello to 450rwhp... with 4.10's

also hang the f*ck on...
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:03 AM   #6
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Doubt the 99-01 cobra intake would work. Also, I think the swap is a good idea. Might want to source a motor out of a wrecked car or get a built motor from someone like MMR off the bat as the internals in the new 5.0's are only good for about 600rwhp or so, which with a blower is real easy to get. Plus, you'll actually be saving some weight off the front of the car as well. I havent researched how much a 2v motor weighs, but swapping a coyote motor into a fox saves weight over a typical 302 from what my friend's numbers have come up with. Best of luck with what you choose to do my friend!
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From a cost/horsepower standpoint I just dont see going with a Coyote motor just yet, there new and way to expensive.
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-How much money do you have to spend on this whole swap?
-How much horsepower are you looking for?
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:06 AM   #9
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your best bet is buy a complete 03/04 termi swap. you can find complete motor/t56 trans, fuel system and wiring for 8-10,000 depending on milage
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Old 12-26-2011, 01:38 PM   #10
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from a cost perspective you will never win against a built motor and a vortech. But a coyote powered sn95 would be sweet and fairly easy, so it just depends if you willing spend the extra $$ on the 5.0 which in the long run has more potential if you want numbers over 700rwhp ( not saying the 2v cant make 700rw, just saying its easier to get a 5.0 there.) or if you jut want 400-550rwhp the 4.6/vortech might be a better idea
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I think it was in a MM & FF mag they did it in a 97 cobra.. I'll look around the house and see if I can find it and give you the article title.. I know people have done it in a new edge, and even one in a bullitt.
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:12 PM   #12
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People have done it and there is a lot of **** and fabricating involved...you will end up 10k deep into that motor and make 400 rwhp. Just build a 4.6 and throw some boost at it.
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People have done it and there is a lot of **** and fabricating involved...you will end up 10k deep into that motor and make 400 rwhp. Just build a 4.6 and throw some boost at it.
11:1 5.0 stroker, TFS heads and MHS stage 4 cams and ill be right there!!!!

AND STILL be able to say "its just a 2V"...
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Yea, I mean...a built 2v will be plenty.

Im still on stock heads/cams and stock bottom end ...made 440 through an auto and will ran high 10s/ low 11s.


How fast do you really want to go? lol
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Agree with many of the above

I was considering the Coyote motor for my swap this winter, but was CA smog issues that turned me away. I am only looking for a max of around 400 HP, so it would have been great, but some pretty serious fabrication stuff needed, as Justin has said. It runs a dry-sump, electric power steering pump and with 11:1 compression, not soo great to run a blower.

Much better off with a Termi motor from Ford, as it is pretty much a direct drop-in and go way beyond the Coyote for a lot less $$$

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thanks for the insight guys really appreciate the help. I think I will get the 03-04 termi and use that. I have worked on alot of stangs and vetts doing alot of retarded **** like dropping an ls9 into an 85 vette. the idea for the car is a car that is a daily driver still but will tear it up at the track and still be a showpiece at car shows.
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For a 5.0 out of a wrecked car with engine control pack from FRPP and bolt-on's you'd be at 450rwhp(seen it done). And there are a fair amount of people running blowers and moderate boost on the stock compression. The higher compression allows for better driveability from my point of view. Personally, I'd rather have a new 5.0 and have $10-15k in it than a termi swap. Newer technology, better fuel economy, and the ability to rev over 7k rpm stock, no brainer for me. I've personally changed my mind from wanting a terminator to a new 2011+. All around better car and a lot more potential.
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Better off buying a 2011+ then ending up 15k deep into a motor build for a car worth 5k.
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Better off buying a 2011+ then ending up 15k deep into a motor build for a car worth 5k.
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Better off buying a 2011+ then ending up 15k deep into a motor build for a car worth 5k.
I'll +1 that. I was going to say it, but I figured I'll let someone else point it out first.
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