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school boy 01-12-2012 10:27 AM

My Recession Buster Engine Build
 
since my funds have ran low and i really want the car to move from its hiding spot, i decided to do my own "Nick McKinney's Recession Buster." for those who dont know what im talking about, heres a link:
http://forums.corral.net/forums/gt-s...on-buster.html

i was just going to snap pics as the build went then do a thread but decided to go ahead with a build thread. heres what i have so far:

i picked up a 98 mark vii engine for $300. i even got to hear it run before being pulled.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/e1.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/e2.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/e3.jpg

here it is torn down. still has the cross hatching in the cylinders.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/11.jpg

here is the hand ported pi heads.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/18.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/17.jpg

here is the other head sitting behind the comp 270 cams and manley ss intake valves. these valves will give me .030-.040 more ptv clearence and better flow.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...iesel555/1.jpg

here the intake i scored for 200 shipped on ebay. its an 96 ford racing svo aluminum manifold. its been ported through out the entire manifold and even been ported for pi heads and coated with heat shield paint (what the seller said)
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/15.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/13.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/14.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/12.jpg

heres some more odds and ends. solid motor mounts, u/d water pump pulley, 7 qt mmr oil pan, mm full windage tray
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/16.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...1324344811.jpg

uberstang1 01-12-2012 11:16 AM

I hope im not about to break a heart, but are you 100 percent positive thats a mark 8 motor. The reason i ask is because the "intech 32 valve" cover on the vavlv covers. I cod be wrong here but i thought the intech labeled was for the transversly mounted 4vs in the continentals and if this is the case that block isnt going to work because the bolt pattern for the bellhousing is different alogg with the motor mount locations.

uberstang1 01-12-2012 11:25 AM

Nevermind mark 8 had em too. Disregard.

school boy 01-12-2012 11:29 AM

yea, im sure. i thought the same thing til i picked this up. i guess either in 97 or 98, ford started doing the coil on plug in the mark viii's. this having these valve covers will add 100-150 to my pocket on getting funds back out of parts. ive done made back 170 on selling the intake and coils. i wont have nothing but time in this short block

Jay-rod427 01-12-2012 12:53 PM

Didn't Mark 8's have the the TB at the back of the engine? Also why did you buy a 4V complete engine just to put 2V PI heads on it, or am I missing something?

uberstang1 01-12-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay-rod427 (Post 7804378)
Didn't Mark 8's have the the TB at the back of the engine? Also why did you buy a 4V complete engine just to put 2V PI heads on it, or am I missing something?

At junkyard he wo of paid the same for another 2v, with this setup he gets an aluminum teksid block and a bump in compression due to the 4v shortblock combined with the pi heads, so he makes a little extra power if i remember correctly.

school boy 01-12-2012 02:06 PM

yea, the teksid block is around 70-80 lbs lighter and has 3cc dish pistons instead of 18cc. i'll be around 11.7 compression

dwtjr3 01-12-2012 03:51 PM

they CR is really that high? So if i got a 98 cobra block and threw 2v heads on it i would have 11-1 CR? Same with a termi motor too i guess?

sn95_331_GT_ yellow 01-12-2012 03:59 PM

Damn beat me to it lol. I just ordered the pistons and rods to so this in my ermine with a 100 shot. Same cams and everything except I'm using a vic 4.6 intake.

dwtjr3 01-12-2012 04:03 PM

So i could get a mark 8 motor and throw 2v heads on it and everything else will be the same as stock then? all the connections and everything?

Bpohlman13 01-12-2012 04:17 PM

Its lookin nice! Dont forget, your front end of your car is going to rise slightly do to the lighter engine. What are you setting your car up for? Drag racing? Twisties?

What are you going to do as far as exhaust? Lts?

Keep us updated!

school boy 01-12-2012 04:46 PM

yea, this would be like throwing flat tops in your current motor. you do need a stae 3 cam or bigger because of the compression. guys, read the thread i posted in the op.
yea the car is setup for twisties. there will be updates later tonight, with pics!

smitty2919 01-12-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay-rod427 (Post 7804378)
Didn't Mark 8's have the the TB at the back of the engine? Also why did you buy a 4V complete engine just to put 2V PI heads on it, or am I missing something?

93-95 had the throttle body at the back, 96-98 got a revised intake manifold like the one you see in the pics.

JC316 01-12-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty2919 (Post 7804745)
93-95 had the throttle body at the back, 96-98 got a revised intake manifold like the one you see in the pics.

Incorrect. The 93-96 had the old style intake, the 96 got the "Intech" badging, but nothing else; the 97-98 had the new style intake.

Jay-rod427 01-12-2012 07:07 PM

Good things to know. Thanks guys.

school boy 01-12-2012 10:15 PM

update:
so i can run my cams at 108 centerline without ptv contact, i done this:

i took a intake valve im not using and grind flats on the upper part of the stem
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/26.jpg

i used a hex quickdisconnect collor to drive the valve
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/25.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/24.jpg

i then cut out 80 grit sand paper with the sticky on the back side and attached it to the valve

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/23.jpg

i then installed the valve in a spare bare head, put the head onthe engine with the locating dails and put the quick disconnect on the valve. i used drill to spin the valve to make my own valve reliefs.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/22.jpg

i repeated the process for each cylinder. i cut the reliefs .050-.058 deep
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...esel555/21.jpg

Bpohlman13 01-12-2012 11:29 PM

Nice! for each piston you did, did you bring it upto tdc first? Because if not, they will be off and wont do anything.

school boy 01-12-2012 11:34 PM

yea, every piston was brought up to tdc

uberstang1 01-13-2012 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwtjr3 (Post 7804598)
So i could get a mark 8 motor and throw 2v heads on it and everything else will be the same as stock then? all the connections and everything?

This would be a very bad idea with boost, the stock shortblock wont handle it with a compression that high.

dwtjr3 01-13-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uberstang1 (Post 7805202)
This would be a very bad idea with boost, the stock shortblock wont handle it with a compression that high.

Yeah 11-1 is high for boost. I just didnt know that the CR would be that high just by putting a 4v short block in


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