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Old 02-12-2012, 02:11 PM   #21
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if you want advice dont buy an intake, just get a drop in K&N filter. like you said you want a meaner sounding car get a midpipe and a catback. go on youtube and watch some clips

edit: let me explain a little more a cai doesnt do much for our cars because our cars already have a "cold air intake" theres only a few degree difference between a cai and the stock intake. the restrictive part is the filter so you can replace that. the main reason people get cai's is for the looks. i personally wouldnt buy one. i would start with exhaust because you can actually hear your car
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I did some searching around before choosing JLT it seemed to be the best choice, most user comments on various forums claim they noticed a small gain in performance but I guess it could've been a placebo effect, Ive been driving this car for 4 years so I should be able to tell if there's any change.

Is it worth buying a tuner after installing the CAI? They're pretty expensive and wasn't sure if the HP gains were worth it for my motor which is basically stock except for the CAI coming next week, I noticed American muscle sells a JLT + Tuner combo kit http://www.americanmuscle.com/jlt-sct-9604gt-kit.html but I have no idea if thats a good brand tuner or what to look for.
As I posted above...

"If you are looking for quick and easy rwHP forget the intake (including "magic" filter elements) and upgrade the exhaust, then a tuner, then rear-end gears. After that get an aftermarket upper plenum, then a TB (70 mm is all you need, and in fact preferable).

Load a "93 octane" tune (or whatever you can get where you live--that will make the biggest difference), and then either say you're done or move to f/i. You can add some "tweaky" things like UDPs, lightened flywheel, aluminum driveshaft, etc but they will not produce any OMG increases."
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Old 02-12-2012, 03:07 PM   #23
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Ok thanks for the advice which was already mentioned earlier in the thread (My bad), Well according to JLT's return policy I can return it unused when it arrives minus shipping & 10% restocking fee, I'm not to happy about having to avoid puddles either especially if I'm not gaining any benefits from installing (other than looks).

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Ok thanks for the advice which was already mentioned earlier in the thread (My bad), Well according to JLT's return policy I can return it unused when it arrives minus shipping & 10% restocking fee, I'm not to happy about having to avoid puddles either especially if I'm not gaining any benefits from installing (other than looks).
I would avoid driving thru deep standing water, but NO ISSUES driving the car as you normally do. I have the JLT CAI with a taller filter (hangs even lower) and there have been NO ISSUES driving the car in the rain. You just don't want to sink the filter into any standing water, but you'd pretty much have to be an idiot to do that anyway. You shouldn't drive any car thru water that deep.

GEARS are the best bang for the buck! Save your money and get some gears. They will provide you with a completely different feel from your car. Nothing else short of boost will make enough difference to actually feel. Cams are the second best mod I've done (gears are first).
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I would avoid driving thru deep standing water, but NO ISSUES driving the car as you normally do. I have the JLT CAI with a taller filter (hangs even lower) and there have been NO ISSUES driving the car in the rain. You just don't want to sink the filter into any standing water, but you'd pretty much have to be an idiot to do that anyway. You shouldn't drive any car thru water that deep.

GEARS are the best bang for the buck! Save your money and get some gears. They will provide you with a completely different feel from your car. Nothing else short of boost will make enough difference to actually feel. Cams are the second best mod I've done (gears are first).
True I can't think of any times ive had to drive through DEEP puddles (nor would I want to), Would going from stock 3.27 to 3.73 gears provide a decent jump in acceleration or would you go straight for 4.10s?
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Would going from stock 3.27 to 3.73 gears provide a decent jump in acceleration or would you go straight for 4.10s?
yes it was and the whole 3.73s or 4.10s is and endless debate that you should read on a try to decide from there.

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Rockwell is correct, the 3.73 upgrade will be very noticeable. However, guys that are into maximum acceleration will say to go for 4.10 gears. You can see in my sig that I am currently running 3.90 gears and like them real well.

It really is your call. You have to decide what exactly you want your car to do for you and develop a mod list to accomplish that. The specific gear ratio is part of that list.
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I have determined to stay out of "what gears...?" discussions, however those asking may be interested in my How Fast Can I Go in Each Gear? calculator as resource for making that comes down to an informed personal choice.

Just select your transmission and desired gear set, and tire size if not stock--and please read footnote¹ before reporting that the tire diameter does not calculate "properly".
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Ok thanks for the advice which was already mentioned earlier in the thread (My bad), Well according to JLT's return policy I can return it unused when it arrives minus shipping & 10% restocking fee, I'm not to happy about having to avoid puddles either especially if I'm not gaining any benefits from installing (other than looks).
Whaaaat? Return your JlT????? The Jlt guys has 30rwhp dyno proof on their intakes!!!!!!!!!!
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Whaaaat? Return your JlT????? The Jlt guys has 30rwhp dyno proof on their intakes!!!!!!!!!!
Doesn't that go up by some percentage related to how many JLT stickers you have?
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What is the difference between the $30.00 filter and the $60 K&N filter in this link?
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par.../N-jfab1Zajem7
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What is the difference between the $30.00 filter and the $60 K&N filter in this link?
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par.../N-jfab1Zajem7
One is a $30 "polyester/cotton gauze in a wire frame, soaked in snake-oil product" from a lesser known manufacturer; the other is a $60 "polyester/cotton gauze in a wire frame, soaked in snake-oil product" from a better known manufacturer...
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One is a $30 "polyester/cotton gauze in a wire frame, soaked in snake-oil product" from a lesser known manufacturer; the other is a $60 "polyester/cotton gauze in a wire frame, soaked in snake-oil product" from a better known manufacturer...
Like paying for the Swoosh on my Nike's.

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i have a bbk cold air intake on my 02gt i love it love da sound n accel is better with it. 2 make it meaner sounding go wit an slp loudmouth exhaust
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If you put Loudmouth mufflers on it, you'll never hear any induction noise, or most of the other noises your car makes.

For induction noise, you would probably do best with an open filter located under the hood. However, drawing warm air from the engine compartment will reduce power.
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Well between the 15% restocking fee + shipping cost back across the US I decided to keep the JLT, plus I still had the bit of curiosity as to if I would actually notice any difference.. (im also a bit stubborn and had already ordered it before seeing this thread).

I installed it a couple days ago and other than some difficulty with the rubber reducing elbow (the instructions warned it was going to be a tight fit and even mentions microwaving the part for 20 seconds and using soapy water, which I ended up doing) plus the final steps of installing the air filter (jack up car, peel back fender skirt, not much room to work with in there) I can honestly say after driving the car for 4 years and being used to the way it runs / accelerates etc. the JLT definitely had an effect on the throttle response, the car responds quicker when lightly pressing the gas than it did before.

I can't say it did a whole lot to the WOT acceleration but it seems to of improved it at least a little bit, from what Ive read around online guess I need to look into buying a tuner.

Plus it does look nice under the hood, I would show a pic but I really need to clean my engine compartment first Click the image to open in full size.

Anyhow just figured I would give some feedback.
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I would go with the JLT series 3 intake with a tune mine works great. With just that and axel backs i was running 13.255 in the 1/4.
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Well between the 15% restocking fee + shipping cost back across the US I decided to keep the JLT, plus I still had the bit of curiosity as to if I would actually notice any difference.. (im also a bit stubborn and had already ordered it before seeing this thread).

I installed it a couple days ago and other than some difficulty with the rubber reducing elbow (the instructions warned it was going to be a tight fit and even mentions microwaving the part for 20 seconds and using soapy water, which I ended up doing) plus the final steps of installing the air filter (jack up car, peel back fender skirt, not much room to work with in there) I can honestly say after driving the car for 4 years and being used to the way it runs / accelerates etc. the JLT definitely had an effect on the throttle response, the car responds quicker when lightly pressing the gas than it did before.

I can't say it did a whole lot to the WOT acceleration but it seems to of improved it at least a little bit, from what Ive read around online guess I need to look into buying a tuner.

Plus it does look nice under the hood, I would show a pic but I really need to clean my engine compartment first Click the image to open in full size.

Anyhow just figured I would give some feedback.
I told you above that of all of them out there the JLT (CAI, not that silly "Ram Air" HAI) was "probably the best"...

The perceived "performance gain" is likely due to the change in the intake sound, however it does look very "trick"...
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The debate over JLT CAI will go on forever, but I would be certain that it isn't hurting the airflow in your car.
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^+1, The JLT will not hurt performance--there are a bunch of them out there that do...
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