Cams for a 2006

[XLeatherNeck]

I fully don't understand why some of you don't understand this. The only explanation I can come up with is that either you just want something to belly ache about, or you have NO CLUE about how to assist your valuable customers. Believe me, with about 35 years of business experience, there is NOTHING more valuable to ANY business than their customers, thus they should be taken care of in every way practicable. Agreed.

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[viking396]

ORIGINAL: MBDiagMan
For the poster who equated this to his computer customer asking what memory and such to put in his computer, are you an expert in ABSOLUTELY ALL aspects of computing? What if your customer wants to run some particular business software application on his computer? Are you an expert on EVERY POSSIBLE business application? Would you need to go do some googling to find out more information so that you could help your customer make a better decision?

NOONE is an expert on EVERYTHING! That's why there are forums such as this, so that we can share our knowledge and experience and try to help others by keeping them from making the same mistakes that we have made.

Jeremy, I'm sorry that I'm not knowledgable in the area in which you are seeking information. If I were, I would help as best I could, and not give you a ration of something found on the barnyard ground in the process.

Lighten up guys and help the man!

True, nobody is an expert on everything, and please don't take this wrong but I did say I have places to go to for updates or reference on new stuff. I will NEVER go to a public fan forum to ask for advice on what to do for a customers equipment. I can only imagine my customers horror if he/she found out I went to a fan site and started asking questions.

Part of being an expert in your own industry is you build up contacts and you know every shop around so if you do have questions the public doesn't know that you didn't know the answer to something. To a customer they know you don't know everything but when you "appear" to know everything they know you're the guy to go to to get the job done.

[DaBoss]

Let it go Viking, let it go.

[viking396]

ORIGINAL: 05SDI

viking396
I have read many your posts in other threads and know you have a lot of knowledge in many areas. (maybe this one too, but that is neither here or there as you don't seem to be willing to share it)

Not wanting this to turn into a personal feud! But I would like to ask; honestly who cares this guys back ground? Chances are very good neither you nor I will have (or take) the chance to use the business he works for. For the most part many members use log in name to obscure their identity somewhat. Yes they may make sense to themselves but to the general forum they are faceless and background less!
I just agree to disagree on our opinions as to WHERE it is acceptable to seek answers for our questions, whether it is our profession or our hobby. I for one take 99% of everything I read on forums as that users OPINION not facts, until I have made a hypothesis on the character of said member.


05SDI

I feel I'm very willing to share information, perhaps not so much with Jeremy as you said but for any other person who owns a Mustang/Ford or heck any other kind of car I'll share gladly.

In fact I'll drive to your house to help if I feel I can be of help. My real problem here is that Jeremy represents a professional mechanic shop, even if he isn't one (professional mechanic) himself his shop purports to be I'll wager.
Maybe my other issue is if I found any of the guys who work for me going to a fan site to get answers and used our name as their user ID I would be pissed because they are on a site as me, my name is used so now my reputation that I have worked years to build is on the line because some kid decided to go online and ask newb questions.

I agree with you in that user opinion should be taken as such and never as fact. I just hope Jeremy understands that when you represent your company, you should seek the same sources your boss would use, and I’ll bet dollars to donuts that his boss would never visit a Mustang fan site to get advice on what cams to use on a customer car.

Maybe I’m wrong and I’m open to the possibility but since I own a business I’m more sensitive to this so maybe I came off harsh. If so I apologize to the guys in this thread (but not Jeremy), this isn’t the first time and probably won’t be the last.

[viking396]

ORIGINAL: DaBoss

Let it go Viking, let it go.

Advice taken.... ummm well yeah... thank you, come again...

[viking396]

ORIGINAL: Twister086

IM GLAD i didnt get blown outta the water when i posted about cam install questions couple months ago. matter of fact, i dont think anyone answered me... i just wanna know if you guys believe comp cams saying they got 40hp outta them... most likely 40hp sae corrected bhp, not real world rear wheel horsepower liek we all wish and hope for... and if it was 40rwhp. how much of it was the tune... im definately not installing until i see a major publication post a premodded 05 roll before numbers around the 285rwhp mark and then throw cams and tuning in. because face it, these cars get 40hp at the flywheel from an intake and mail-tune. show me your cams your gonna give me 40 MORE N/A flywheel horses

Twister,

Doug at Bamachips should have real world numbers soon, the good thing about going with the CAMS is that they work well with CAI, tuner/tune, head work, headers and mid-pipe so in the end you get a very good increase to the wheels. Now we just have to see what those numbers are.
If someone comes out with real world results soon my car will be in line to get this work done and I'll post the results of course when it's done.

If you want, call Doug at 205-302-0231, maybe he has some updated info.

Check out this page for the CAMS
http://bamachips.com/store/index.php...ath=18_4_10_27

[bunit9685]

ORIGINAL: MBDiagMan

I have gone back and carefully reread each and every one of Jeremy's threads.

He has not at ANY time indicated that he has represented himself as a cam expert to his customer. He also has not said that he is looking for a cam to resell to his customer, although if he is doing that, it's cool. He is SIMPLY trying to assist his customer to make a good selection rather than doing what many folks would do and that is to sell the customer the product that provides themselves with the highest profit margin. It sounds very much like he is merely gathering information to provide to his customer so that the customer can make an informed decision.

What part of CUSTOMER SERVICE do you guys not understand? In this day of so many people out there with their only motive being to remove money from other folks bank accounts, it actually is quite refreshing to hear someone who is trying to provide good customer service in an effort to EARN a customers business. I fully realize that there are some of you who do not understand the concept of EARNING a customers business. I see no reason to believe that Jeremy is doing anything else. There is no evidence that he has presented himself to his customer as a cam expert.

As far as attacking his being a "professional" coming here for advice from "amateurs," again there is no evidence that he has presented himself as an expert. It sounds very much as if he is someone who spends lots of time trying to find good sources for good parts for his customers.

I fully don't understand why some of you don't understand this. The only explanation I can come up with is that either you just want something to belly ache about, or you have NO CLUE about how to assist your valuable customers. Believe me, with about 35 years of business experience, there is NOTHING more valuable to ANY business than their customers, thus they should be taken care of in every way practicable.

My $0.02.

If he wants to gather information on cams for a potential customer then this still isnt the place for a professional to do so, even if he isnt selling the customer anything. I have quite a few clues as to assisting my valuable customers because I'm a parts manager at a marine service shop, so I know exactly what it's like and I know exaclty why what he is doing is stupid for him as well as for the customer.

And Viking doesnt deserve all the flak as I made the first comment so dont take it all out on him guys :P.

[05SDI]

To each and all;
Cheers and thanks!
05SDI

[dkano]

Jeremy, if I was you I would just ignore the posts that didn't provide any help on which cams to go with. What's the point of coming here and hating on someone who's honestly trying to find the best product for a customer who has asked them to research a product they have told them they haven't installed yet? He already said they tried to sell the guy a SC but the client wanted to go with cams, so they decided to do some research with people that might have first hand experience. Now the comment that they should just know a company that makes cams and go with that company or that they should learn on their own is just stupid when they can come in here and find what the best product is.
Lets say that they knew someone a BBR or any other company that makes cams, well when they called that company they would of course tell them that they offer the best cams for these cars! I know some shops do get special pricing on some parts from certain companies so they try to sell you those products, doesn't mean you're getting the best product for your car, but that seems to be what some guys in here prefer, oh well! I would prefer a shop that tries to offer me the best possible product for my car!

And Jeremy I hope you did pick one of the best cams for our cars and look forward to the results when you're done with the install, since cams is a mod I've been thinking of doing on my car. Just don't have the money to experiment by buying a set before seeing the results. Too bad your client has NOS, maybe you could post before and after results without using the NOS! [sm=smiley20.gif]

[viking396]

ORIGINAL: MBDiagMan

I have gone back and carefully reread each and every one of Jeremy's threads.

He has not at ANY time indicated that he has represented himself as a cam expert to his customer. He also has not said that he is looking for a cam to resell to his customer, although if he is doing that, it's cool. He is SIMPLY trying to assist his customer to make a good selection rather than doing what many folks would do and that is to sell the customer the product that provides themselves with the highest profit margin. It sounds very much like he is merely gathering information to provide to his customer so that the customer can make an informed decision.

What part of CUSTOMER SERVICE do you guys not understand? In this day of so many people out there with their only motive being to remove money from other folks bank accounts, it actually is quite refreshing to hear someone who is trying to provide good customer service in an effort to EARN a customers business. I fully realize that there are some of you who do not understand the concept of EARNING a customers business. I see no reason to believe that Jeremy is doing anything else. There is no evidence that he has presented himself to his customer as a cam expert.

As far as attacking his being a "professional" coming here for advice from "amateurs," again there is no evidence that he has presented himself as an expert. It sounds very much as if he is someone who spends lots of time trying to find good sources for good parts for his customers.

I fully don't understand why some of you don't understand this. The only explanation I can come up with is that either you just want something to belly ache about, or you have NO CLUE about how to assist your valuable customers. Believe me, with about 35 years of business experience, there is NOTHING more valuable to ANY business than their customers, thus they should be taken care of in every way practicable.

My $0.02.

Clearly we agree to disagree, Jeremy did say this was for a customers car, so you missed that in your detailed look at his posts. It's the first post in this thread. To end my part in this don't think for a second that you know anything about how my customer service is, I don't have an advertising budget for a reason, 100% customer satisfaction. I'd rather lose money than a customer, so you sir have no clue about what I understand.

Jeremy, just consider this, when you log onto a forum with your company name, it reflects on how people see the company you work for and while your intentions are I hope positive, it made you, in my eyes at least, lazy and not looking to the correct sources for the information. I would kill the id, create a new one and let people know you're back. I for one will be happy to help, unless you don't want it of course, but I do wish you and your company well and I hope you're CAMS install goes well.

Just my $2.02...