You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!
1. A centri is a basically a belt driven turbo but the power is different. A centri progressively makes boost as rpm's rise. If you spin the blow faster more boost etc. If you kept spinning to 10k rpms etc. A turbo has a spool time, which is greatly reduced with newer set ups and also a V8 is moving way more air than a tiny 4 banger. On top of that much more torque on the low end from a v8. Now once the turbo is spooled it will quickly reach max boost by about 4k rpms and stay there till redline. A TS or roots blower makes almost max boost by 2250rpm to redline. So you can see they all provide a slightly different power profile, but they are all good.
2. Mudflap - No need to custon fab a Air/Air intercooler for the vortech they paxton one will bolt right up. They are the same company and design really. I prefer air/water for a few reasons but that is a discussion for a later day.
3. Rainsfather - Hot Rod cams will likely hurt your low end power production not help it. Also from research I have run you can use them with FI, but they will not make any additional power but they wont really hurt either. For a pure sound mod I think they are great. Just dont expect them to help any and if you decide you want crazy power they will have to come out.
4. I am not a big fan of Meth either. For a drag car or serious street racing car fine, but that stuff is very corosive for your motor. Plus if you tune for it and it runs out during WOT, KABOOM!!!! IMO I would much rather spend the money for a mondo intercooler set up. And if you really want to lower IAT's try nitrous. Cools and makes more power. Life is good
5. Dont fear the HP. Honestly I have never seen a properly tuned/installed kit at 10psi that has blown the motor. IMO whatever power you can make on 10psi is fine for the stock motor.
Thats all I got. FI selection is very personal. I was sure I was going to buy a non int whipple, whipple HO, saleen, Hellion turbo, at various points in my decision process. In the end I went whipple HO and I have been very happy. Probably would have been with any of the others too. Honestly I think picking a kit based on cost alone isnt a good idea. In the end you will want the more expensive one you wanted from the beginning. Always easier to buy what you want once.
In the end, the FI selection process I found worked best was..
1. Looks
2. Sound
Very simple. Any kit make enough power to blow your motor so it doesnt come into the equation.
Good Luck. Getting Blown is fun.
This ad is not displayed to registered or logged-in members. Register your free account today and become a member on Mustang Forums!
What are the diffrences (if any) between the vortech HO and paxton HO set ups? Is it just the blower itself or piping diffrences? The kit i saw on paxton's site shows a HUGE cooler where as the vortechs looks ity bity.
__________________
"2008 black gt premium"
Custom stripes
Paxton HO Blower
Brenspeed paxton tune
SLP power flos
Hurst billet short throw
BMR Lowering kit and LCA'S
1973 RS Camaro Bracket Car
9.50 @ 143mph 1/4 mile.
Man I just want to be pushed back hard into my seat when I punch it. Even a stock GT feels "snappy" but it doesn't violently shove you back into your seat. I have no idea how much power it will take to get there but that's my goal.
What are the diffrences (if any) between the vortech HO and paxton HO set ups? Is it just the blower itself or piping diffrences? The kit i saw on paxton's site shows a HUGE cooler where as the vortechs looks ity bity.
the paxton uses a air/air intercooler and the vortech uses an air/water. air/water intercoolers are usually smaller as they are more efficient. besides that I really havent been able to tell the difference between the pax 2200 and the vortech V3. both offer non-intercooled setups also. when i was talking to a local tuner about getting the paxton he told be to download the vortech instructions because the kits are the same except for the intercooler part and the vortech instructions have better pictures and explanations.
__________________
2007 Silver Mustang GT, FRPP CAI w/ Steeda inlet elbow, FRPP Lowering Springs,FRPP Hot Rod cams, FRPP (Hurst) Shifter, Pypes O/R X-pipe, Glasspack mufflers, Bamachips Tuned, Saleen CMDPs
2005 Suzuki Burgman 400 (custom turbo setup in the works)
Stealth, its your choice between HO or non-intercool kit. I ran vortech's non-intercooled kit for almost 3 years with no problems, made ok power. 452 rwhp 413 rwtq, now thats with a 1. pc driveshaft and taking it to 6200 rpms. During the summer months i power did decrease around 420(90 degrees, Nashville,TN). I recently just added a air to air intercooler, same pulley(3.8) 7 lbs. max at 6200 I made 472 rwhp and 433 rwtq with 1 pc. driveshaft. The 1 pc. driveshaft with both set-ups helped me in the tq dept. somewhat around 12-15 ft-lbs. The difference with non and intercool is timing. non-intercool 14 degrees was max, with intercooler 20 degrees. The choice is yours to make. I will say dont waist your money on cams, inless your going for sound. Sorry for a long post.
You should not buy Thumper cams and run them with a blower. That is counter-productive. You feel the need for cams then buy cams that are profiled to go with forced induction, so they will make your Vortech work better rather than be less efficient, as Thumper cams would be innefficient with a blower.
Spoken with true ignorance. Not everyone buys a blower to make the most power possible. I personally will be doing the Hot Rod Cams and eventually one day go with some type of boost ( leaning more towards a turbo ) but there is no reason doing the Thumper/Hot Rod Cams and getting a blower void each other out. One is for power, one is for sound
__________________
2007 Mustang GT Premium
18" Black Saleens, BFG KDW2's
H&R SS/D-Specs, CHE Adj. UCA, Hurst STS, JLTII/B a m a 91 Race!!, Pypes O/R X, Dynomax Resonators, Remote Start www.Retro-Solutions.com www.CruizinConcepts.com
Spoken with true ignorance. Not everyone buys a blower to make the most power possible. I personally will be doing the Hot Rod Cams and eventually one day go with some type of boost ( leaning more towards a turbo ) but there is no reason doing the Thumper/Hot Rod Cams and getting a blower void each other out. One is for power, one is for sound
I am sorry, where did I say they void each other out? I am really happy that you personally will be doing a turbo and Hot Rod cams. That is nice for you. I hope you enjoy it when ever you do get it.
Did I say anything about making the most power possible?
I think I simply answered the original posters question, which was if thes etow were a good combination. They are not the best combination, unfortunately.
Yes, you can change the sound of your car however you like with exhaust, cams or headers.
The fact still is that those naturally aspirated cams will not be as efficent as the cams profiled for forced induction.
So not everyone wants to spend 1000 dollars on cams just to change the sound. Some people actually want an increase in power from this type of modification.
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company
