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Old 03-16-2009, 08:32 PM   #11
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I just spoke with my service advisor at the dealership and this is all new to him.
He said there was no recalls, and hadn't heard of any TSBs related to the plugs on Mustangs, he said the F150s had problems, but that we should be fine with OEM.

Great, now I'm worried....
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:39 AM   #12
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I just spoke with my service advisor at the dealership and this is all new to him.
He said there was no recalls, and hadn't heard of any TSBs related to the plugs on Mustangs, he said the F150s had problems, but that we should be fine with OEM.

Great, now I'm worried....
"All new to him?" Seriously??

The spark plugs are the same in both vehicles. Cylinder head design to accomodate them is the same.
Therefore, the same problems exist.

Recalls are safety items, so no, there are no recalls.

He must be new there himself.
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I too find it hard to believe this is "news to him". Maybe not paying very close attention? Weird.

I pulled mine last weekend with 11,000 on them. Came out no problem. No aerokroil needed and they didn't squeel on the way out either. Just put anti seize on the electrode shield and a bit on the threads. Back in they went.
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Old 03-17-2009, 12:31 PM   #14
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Yeah, new to him! Which is weird because he's the head service advisor at one of the biggest Ford Dealerships in Las Vegas, seriously I'd think he would've at least heard of it, even if he advised me against worrying about the plugs.
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Old 03-17-2009, 12:42 PM   #15
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Well I wouldn't "worry" about it either.

It's so easy to do though. If the car has low miles they will come right out piece of cake. You might not even need to blow the spark plug wells out first with low miles it should be pretty clean down there.

If you plan on staying NA for a while just buy a little anti seize and take care of it. Probably the easiest thing I've done short of an oil change.
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The guy is an idiot or doesn't want to deal with the questions.

ALL 3 VALVE V-8 FORD MOTORS PRIOR TO A BUILD DATE OF 1-08 HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH THE TWO PIECE SPARK PLUGS, I REPEAT...AAAALLLLLL OF THEM. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT'S A CAR OR TRUCK. IF IT HAS A 3-V V-8, MOTOR IT HAS CRAPPY PLUGS.

Sometime in late 07 early 08 Ford FINALLY responded to the problem by redesigning the heads spark plug receptacle (for lack of a better word). Instead of having the nose without threads go into the head they went with a more traditional plug.

Champion makes the ONLY 1 piece spark plug for the older V8 engines that had the issue (PN 7989)
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Well I wouldn't "worry" about it either.

It's so easy to do though. If the car has low miles they will come right out piece of cake. You might not even need to blow the spark plug wells out first with low miles it should be pretty clean down there.

If you plan on staying NA for a while just buy a little anti seize and take care of it. Probably the easiest thing I've done short of an oil change.
The best solution is to spend the money now and just buy the Champion plugs. If you're going to take the time to pull the plugs out, don't band-aid it. Just fix it.
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In my case that would be a waste of money. In two years or 20K miles colder plugs go in along with the blower.

I tend to agree that if a person doesn't plan on FI then an outright replacement of the plugs is probably the best way to go.
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In my case that would be a waste of money. In two years or 20K miles colder plugs go in along with the blower.

I tend to agree that if a person doesn't plan on FI then an outright replacement of the plugs is probably the best way to go.
See what leaving details out leads too >:-I

In your situation I agree, pull the Stock ones out, antiseize them up, and stick em back in.
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This situation really is a load of crap. Ford should be doing these TSBs on all these cars, no questions asked, and not expecting you to pay a dime. It's a clear design problem and if the car gets enough miles on sooner or later it's going to fuse those damn things in there such that it will be a serious bitch to get them out. 80+k miles and I would be very very worried.
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