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Old 02-06-2011, 10:54 AM   #1
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Default Possible bad 2nd gear syncro?

Hey Guys, need your help on this one. So this problem seemed to pop up pretty quickly and now my friend seems to agree it's Possilby my 2nd gear syncronizer in my 2005 GT manual going bad. It's making that Zipping sound in the shift and you can hear the metallic grinding sound when either moderately or aggressive shifting it. I have to double clutch to eleviate a little. I'll take it to a local Certified Transmission shop in the next few weeks to verify. Is there any other options I can look at? Is it worth fixing or ditching this tranmission for a new one?
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Old 02-06-2011, 11:57 AM   #2
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I broke many T5 trannys....minor Rebuild and a new 2nd gear syncro should be inexpensive.....I would also change the 3rd gear syncro. I think it's worth fixing and should be priced under a grand if you pull the tranny. Good Luck!!
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I finally got around to taking it to the local Transmission shop and they did their free evaluation. They confirmed it as a bad 2nd gear syncro and sad it's not worth fixing considering the amount of labor and parts and I'd be better off replacing it completely. For a 3 year warranty they quoted me around $3300. Yikes! I've considered looking into the Tremec 6 speed swap but that is super expensive for one more gear.

And then I was on Ebay and seen this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-...Q5fAccessories
Brand new Tremec T-3650 for 1200 before shipping. You all think this may be the better route to go? It's a brand new Tranny and even if I throw in a new clutch would still save over a grand compared to a shop. My friend has the tools and know how to help me do this.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:11 AM   #4
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Hmmm, I'd get a second opinion if I were you before moving on to buying a new one, just to cover your bases. It wouldn't hurt, it's just $3300 is an awfully steep quote for a 2nd gear syncro that is starting to go bad.
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Hmmm, I'd get a second opinion if I were you before moving on to buying a new one, just to cover your bases. It wouldn't hurt, it's just $3300 is an awfully steep quote for a 2nd gear syncro that is starting to go bad.
No, that's what they quoted me for a replacement transmission. The guy said it isn't worth fixing since it's inside the transmission. He advised that considering the amount of labor involved along with parts. And honestly, I would also have them replace atleast the first and 3rd gear syncros as well. It's something I'm gonna think on for a while, On top of that I want to replace the clutch with atleast a Stage 2+ since the tranny will be off and that adds about another $400 to the cost whichever decision I go.
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To rebuild the trans still should not be near $3300. If they did not give you a quote for the rebuild cost, I would be skeptical, but thats just me, I tend to not trust shops. If you pulled the trans and brought it in, there's no way it should cost that much or be comparable in cost to a new trans.

Now, if you're using this as an opportunity to justify to yourself an upgrade, that's a different story. But from a money stand point, a rebuild should be cheaper.
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I trust the shop. I had my 5.0 Explorer's 4r70w replaced there before.But honestly If I could get a crate transmission with "0" mileage and replace the clutch inside a 2000 dollar budget I would rather go that route. I like the 6 speed swap option. But can't justify over 4 grand into just adding an extra gear.
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I'm the same, I'd rather buy new and have the peace of mind. Keep us updated on what you decide.
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sounds like your getting screwes 3300 is rediculous i would just have that one rebuilt pull it and send it off to promotion http://www.promotionpowertrain.com/TRANSMISSIONS.html yours is the 3650 and for 1,690 you get a stronger input shaft for thhat price you could install a clutch and have the new trans put in for no more that 400 in labor thats what we charge
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after pondering on this all week and weekend. I'm closing in on buying the new un-used transmission off of e-bay. I really liked the idea of a Tremec T-56 swap but cannot justify $4000+ on an extra gear. So I'll buy the new tranny, throw in synthetic fluid, and a stage 2+ clutch and call it a day. I have to keep my main budget this year on my 5.0 Explorer projects planned. I definitely appreciated everyone's input though, it definitely helped me in exploring all my options.
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