Originally Posted by demea
I never said I beat one. If you read again, I said I THINK I COULD beat an automatic. 6 speeds are def pulling too much mph to even dream about it.
My mods at the time when I ran the 6 speed on the street
DAVAD Motorsports 87 tune loaded (remembered I didn't even have the 93 tune in)
Convertible top down
No weight reduction (actually weight adders...18x9/18x10 bullits with 305/45/18 555r's in rear)
I hear what you're saying about the LS3 and I'm in complete agreement with you. It's a great engine and a wonderful car. (I was shopping SS and Hemi Chargers before I bought my 06. I decided I wanted a convertible and didn't want to wait until 2011 when the SS verts came out.)
I'm just telling you my real world experience from a seasoned adult racer.
From what I've read, the stock 6 speed SS are capable of 13.0@111 and the autos slightly slower. Take into account that is the magazines best run with a professional driver in a controlled environment. On the street, different story.
If my best was email@example.com with a 1.91 60' (March 2011) and on the street I'm probably a low 13 second car, then why is it so unbelievable that I kept up with a car running a magazine best of 13.0
Never said it was unbelievable. I said it was unbelievable WITHOUT some good mods on there.
Track conditions also make things variable we all know.
But I say that it would be pretty DAMN impressive to give a new SS a run for it's money with your mods.
BTW the magazine drivers are often CRAP drivers. Most are NOT really professional drivers. Many test the cars with POOR abilities. It's
a known FACT. Magazines are no real testament to what these cars can do. Time slips and videos from the normal track people are your best input where that is
concerned. I NEVER count on the magazine driver's results. I look at videos and time slips from MANY track drivers that do it all the time.
Ask just about anyone on the forums and they will agree. The magazine times can be a JOKE often.
Just look at these results from Edmunds.
They had the 2011 Mustang GT rated at 13.3 in the 1/4 mi.
REALLY? That doesn't say much for their driver.
And this is what Car and Driver got with their "professional" drivers when comparing the new SS to the 5.0!
"With its big edge in pounds per horsepower—8.7 versus 9.1—and shorter rear end, we expected the GT to smoke the Camaro in the sprints, but this turned out to be one of the surprises. The Mustang matched the Chevy to 60 at 4.6 seconds, limited slightly by an extra upshift, but it trailed by a half-second to 100 mph, and in the quarter-mile: 13.2 seconds at 109 mph versus 13 flat at 111."
They had the SS beating the 5.0 in the quarter and had the 5.0 at 13.2 !
We all know that is NOT a good run for the new 5.0... And most of the time the 5.0 edges it out
driver for driver being even. But I'd bet that the Camaro driver was not a "pro" either with that 13 flat run.
Enough said about the magazine drivers? Hehehe!
I'm still saying you giving a new SS a run for it's money with your mods would be quite the achievement.
I mean really, compare the HP and trq numbers and the weight too. It just does NOT add up my friend for you to give a new SS a REAL run
for it's money.
I'm not trying to insult you. I'm just stating facts.
Hell.. i've seen tests on the 08 GT500 from magazines "pro" drivers that have the GT500 clocked at 12.9 in the 1/4.
Your telling me you are running virtually the same time as a GT500 with your mods?
I think not sir. But really it is known the GT500 runs well under the 12.9 time. (12.5 or lower at some times)
I am trying to make the point about magazine times here.
I'd also like to see a time slip and video from the run you claim though. That is one nice run with your mods.
Not saying you aren't stating truth. I'd just like to see the run because it would be a very nice run.
Lets not forget you were running a Drag Radial tire which can make a HUGE difference vs stock tires when talking times my
friend. These 13.0 times from magazines on the Camaro SS are NOT with drag radials wrapped on the car.
That's just not a fair comparison you speak of either.