Diabolical!

I'd skip brenspeed and go straight to a good dyno tuner. Nothing against Brent, but you want a hands on tuner for this. I still suspect that it's out of time. Dealers rarely admit fault.

moosestang

I'm used to seeing long term fuel trims as a percentage. Mine are not always the same bank to bank.

moosestang

They may not like to admit fault, but surely they can easily tell if the timing is off. Isn't it as simple as removing the front cover and looking at the timing marks?

DGunter

I took it to the dealer he removed the front cover and said it was perfect. He told me to come look at it but I just don't have time, he said he was going to take some pictures of the timing with his Iphone and send them to me he is going to put the car back together today. He also thinks it is in the tune since the car runs fine on the stock tune. Oh and as simple as removing the front cover is apparently a 8-10 hour job. That is what i'm charged for anyway. So the timing is perfect the teeth are all in the correct place and I'm back to square 1 just cost me a few hundred to confirm it for bama so we could for a fact eliminate that as a problem.

Also those readings are from the last data-log performed

moosestang

It's simple, not quick. You have to remove the valve covers, radiator hose and all the pulleys just to start.

DGunter

Bama is going to try a couple of more tunes. The tuner said that they had to add fuel to my car which is not common for just cams. He wants me to show him pics of my air box so he can confirm it has not been manipulated. I bought the car new so that's not an issue. He thinks vacuum leak but the tech has double checked everything and says its fine.

Derf00

If AM/Bama can't fix it, take it to a Dyno. Something's not right. Yes, it is normal for fuel trim to be a little different from one bank to the other but there is a limit (within 5% of each other). Yours is within that spec.

I still say the timing or camshaft sensor...

DGunter

Timing is perfect paid 800 dollars to figure that out also there are no codes, and the stock tune runs perfect if it were a sensor would it change with the tune?

05slpGT

My car is also "unique", every time i get a tune from Bama or Brenspeed, my throttle body breaks, or the car just drives terrible, and I dont mean that against either tuner, its just my car. Ever since I went and got a custom dyno tune(about 8 months ago) the car runs awesome. As much as it sucks to spend more money in your situation, I would HIGHLY suggest to go spend 300-500 on a dyno tune from a local reputable shop. Its just not the same when they arent using YOUR car on the dyno.

DGunter

Thanks, that's definitely what I will do, too bad the closest reputable shop is two hours away.