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Ideally I'd want to swap in a 2.3 for ease purposes, but I'd probably take the cheapest route to power possible. If it's going to cost a ton to do a swap, I might just get a cam, throttle body, and port the intake. I'm not looking for a ton of power, I'd much rather it handle good.
In other news, I spent this weekend fixing a couple things on the car. I applied some new silicon on my windshield seal where air would blow in and make a high pitched buzz. I also painted my side mirrors and rims flat black. I like the way it turned out. I'll post pictures tomorrow.
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"The battery is discharging, the oil temperature is very high, the oil pressure is very low, the engine temperature is off the end of the scale, I'm running out of petrol, but the clock is correct!"- James May
Sorry I didn't post pictures. I was counting on a friend who is a big photography nut to take pictures for me, but we had things to do. I was looking at my rust spots, and got to wondering if they would look any better if I sprayed white primer on them. There are two on the driver's side fender, and one on the trunk lid. What do you guys think? I think it would at least look better than having no paint there at all.
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"The battery is discharging, the oil temperature is very high, the oil pressure is very low, the engine temperature is off the end of the scale, I'm running out of petrol, but the clock is correct!"- James May
Im from the 5.0 section and I swapped out my 2.3 for a 5.0. I hope my input helps a little here.
To do the V6 swap you would need a new k-member because they are different for the 4cyl and V6 but the 4cyl k-member will work for a 302, its weird and doesnt sound right but the 302 will sit right in with new motor mounts. If you are looking for more handling than power I would go with new springs, struts and go to a 5 lug sn95 brake conversion plus control arms. The sn95 axles I believe wont fit in a fox axle housing because they are longer but the driver side axles from the 88 ranger will fit so you would need 2 of them, heres a 5 lug conversion site http://mjbobbitt.home.comcast.net/~m...tang/5lug.html
to do the 4.6 swap requires special motor mounts for your k-member (might need to upgrade to tubular k-member) and the computer plus all the wiring harnesses (PITA) but its been done.
the 5.8 swap requires a cowl hood because of the deck height of the 351W. heres a thread about 5.8 conversion http://mustangforums.com/forum/351-m...onversion.html
All in all I would have to agree with sleeper inc, if you are trying to stay the cheapest route possible find a 2.3T engine with computer and wiring harness and try to find a 5spd with it if thats the way you want. It would be the easiest way to go IMO.
Like I said I hope this info works out. I have done some looking around and this is stuff I have read viz forums and such from people who were in the same situation as you. If any of this info is wrong I apologize and I hope someone will fix/correct my shortcomings.
Good luck with whichever way you choose to go.
~Chaoss~
*edit: If you are looking for quick easy mods right now, upgrade your throttle body and port your intake to match the TB. Port your heads exhaust ports to your exhaust manifold and intake ports to intake manifold. Get rid of the cat for a glasspack if you dont have emissions. New gears in the rear will help, alot. Get some spectre pieces from advanced or autozone and make a CAI.
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Sorry I didn't post pictures. I was counting on a friend who is a big photography nut to take pictures for me, but we had things to do. I was looking at my rust spots, and got to wondering if they would look any better if I sprayed white primer on them. There are two on the driver's side fender, and one on the trunk lid. What do you guys think? I think it would at least look better than having no paint there at all.
Where are the rust spots? If you can take and wire brush/sand it down to bare metal. Use a good rust prevention primer. Rust is cancer so make sure to sand around the rust to and make sure it hasnt spread.
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Mods: I dont have a friggin clue... I bought it from a hack job and now its up to me to fix it! Gotta love people.
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deep down inside, he's a mullet growning redneck
just refuses to admit it.. sorta like being a closet fag
Thanks for the swap info. Right now time and money are the sole factors in what I'm gonna do for mods. This summer I might just do a cam (maybe), throttle body, and intake port. I don't really want to mess with porting the head though, because I'd have to remove the head.
The rust spots were on my drivers side front fender, rocker panel driver's side, and on the trunk lid. I had dremeled them, though it's still rough looking, and I primered them today. I think it looks a lot better.
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"The battery is discharging, the oil temperature is very high, the oil pressure is very low, the engine temperature is off the end of the scale, I'm running out of petrol, but the clock is correct!"- James May
How much are you wanting to spend on your mustang?
Just remember that if you drop in a V8 or V6 you will have to change a ton of parts. It's not just the ECU, wiring harness, engine, tranny, tranny mounts, and eninge mounts. You could find most of the parts you need through here or a junkyard but that might take a while to acquire.
You could also look into doing an IRS from the 2000 cobra's(can't remember the exact year). That could run upwards of 2grand though.
Paint is going to run you at least 2000 for a full body color change. You could of course drop that price by doing it yourself or taking it to an automotive college.
Also if you go with a bigger engine, your insurance will probably go up. Depending on what newer car you want, your insurance will go up also.
When you add it all up, it would probably be cheaper to buy a newer car. It all comes down to what you want.
I know that it will be expensive for me to fix up my car, but luckily for me I know a fair amount of helpful people and places that can save me money. If I do get a paint job, I'm definitely doing prep work myself, and going to a body shop that I know and have done business with before with good prices. As for the engine, I doubt I'll swap, but I probably will get a JY throttle body, port the intake, and maybe get a cam. I don't want to do an IRS setup unless I find an amazing deal. I guess I mostly want my car to be respectable and worthy of its badge. If I can't do that for cheaper than another car, I'll probably buy another car. It's all still up in the air about my exact plan though.
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"The battery is discharging, the oil temperature is very high, the oil pressure is very low, the engine temperature is off the end of the scale, I'm running out of petrol, but the clock is correct!"- James May
It is not going to be horribly expensive to do a swap. If you can find a wrecked 5.0 mustang and strip everything you need out of there that would be the easiest way to go. As for suspension alot of 5.0 guys run 4cyl springs up front because it gives that raked look to the car. If you can find a good donor car than I would say go with a swap it isnt that hard and the power you can make from the v8 is a huge benefit.
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They call me Organized Chaoss... Some food for thought
Mods: I dont have a friggin clue... I bought it from a hack job and now its up to me to fix it! Gotta love people.
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Originally Posted by AdderMk2
deep down inside, he's a mullet growning redneck
just refuses to admit it.. sorta like being a closet fag
It is not going to be horribly expensive to do a swap. If you can find a wrecked 5.0 mustang and strip everything you need out of there that would be the easiest way to go. As for suspension alot of 5.0 guys run 4cyl springs up front because it gives that raked look to the car. If you can find a good donor car than I would say go with a swap it isnt that hard and the power you can make from the v8 is a huge benefit.
As I've said, I'd prefer to do a swap. However, I need time, transportation during that time, space, money, and tools. And transportation for a donor car or engine and tranny. I can get most of these, but getting all of them is going to be a hassle until probably this summer.
Does anybody know what the stock N/A computer can handle in mods? I haven't gotten an answer to that yet.
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"The battery is discharging, the oil temperature is very high, the oil pressure is very low, the engine temperature is off the end of the scale, I'm running out of petrol, but the clock is correct!"- James May
Im in the same boat as you with my Mustang. Im not sure if you have seen my project thread or not but i need body work done too, not because of rust, but because there is glue on my panels lol. You will need to see the pictures to see better of what im trying to explain. Also, the fender i painted didnt come out as perfect as i wanted it to.
Im in two minds too, wether to replace my trunk lid (has a dent in it and i dont like the luggage rack) with a notch lid but keeping it black, along with a black hood too. My wife isnt a fan of the idea of my car with a silver paint job, black hood and trunk with red pin stripping and red/black interior.
I had a quote from a body shop to have them fix the glue area's, re-do that fender ect, but they want around $1000. It seems rather pricey to me.
I could save money and try to fix the glue area's myself, buy a new painted fender, same too with the trunk lid but i really am not a fan of body work
Once the body work looks good then ill think of a swap.
As for your stock ECU mod question, i dont believe they can handle more than 130HP (with what i have read) due to the injectors and all that jazz unless you run a piggy back system like megasquirt.
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