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Old 04-08-2009, 01:12 PM   #21
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I am getting closer to installing the front sway bar and have been reading up a bit on oversteer and understeer. It seems that the more I read, the more I get confused, so by installing the larger sway bar in front is this going to increase my oversteer or my understeer? Supposedly the increase in oversteer will make a car more dangerous to drive, how "dangerous" if you will, is it going to make my car's handling?

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1. I do not know, 2 is my guess.

2. It may increase oversteer, but if you can control your car it can easily be managed by your gas/brake/steering inputs. If you just charge into a corner and slam the brakes and crank the wheel I guess it could be a problem, but that isn't how you should drive anyway. I wouldn't worry about it, just install and enjoy.
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:33 PM   #22
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Thanks for the link! That has some great information and some good answers. Hmmm....I wonder how hard a watts link would be to install...ah, I better take this one step at a time. lol

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An oversteering tendency will be reduced by locating the anti-roll bar at the front where it will reduce the cornering force and adhesion of the front tires. If the vehicle understeers, the anti-roll bar should be located at the rear. If an anti-roll bar is already required at both ends of the vehicle to achieve adequate roll stiffness, use an anti-roll bar of greater stiffness/diameter at the end of the vehicle where reduced cornering force is desired, and use a less-stiff/smaller-diameter bar at the other end.
So here are my thoughts on this... since the Mustang supposedly naturally understeers from factory, when I added the rear sway bar I increased oversteer. Now that I am installing a larger front sway bar, then I will be decreasing the oversteer I just created with the rear, and thus should almost be back to where I started with the understeer, does that sound logical?

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How hard was the kit to install? Any complications or drilling required?
So far the kit has been relatively easy to install, mainly because I have only installed one component. LOL The k-member brace simply bolts into place, no modification required and boy what a difference it makes in handling.

The strut tower brace does require drilling into the firewall and the strut towers, for this reason I have been putting it off for the fear of drilling into the car. Also the front part of the brace goes right over the hole you put the oil in so it makes it a bit more inconvenient to add oil. Probably not a big deal, just take some time getting used to it. I will definitely continue holding off on installing it until I get my turbo swap done, I don't know if it will still fit once the reveresed 180 intake is installed.

I haven't installed the sub-frame connectors yet either. I am trying to get some surface rust cleaned up that is around the area where the connectors will go, mainly just because it will be more difficult to work on once they are installed. Can't wait until it starts warming up so I can finish that up. I think the biggest problem with this is that I am having a hard time finding someone to install them for me. No one around here wants to "get involved in that kind of project" so lame, I wish I knew how to weld. LOL

I would definitely suggest you look into one, I can hardly wait to get everything installed. Here is a link to where I got mine. They were the cheapest that I could find and were pretty good to work with.
http://www.mustangsplus.com/xcart/pr...at=3105&page=1

You might want to verify that this kit will work on your convertible though.
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:39 PM   #23
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Thanks for the link. Hows the Turbo build going? I keep checking that thread everyday lol.
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:24 PM   #24
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Installed the swaybar yesterday, still trying to decide if I like it or not. First couple of trials went great and I loved the increased handling and more solid feel of the front end. But last night when going through a rural roundabout, wich I can usually take at 35mph without a problem, car would hug the turn and hold tight to the road, but last night the back end slid out. Nothing that wasn't manageable, but really took me by surprise. So aside from that, it is great, but I just wonder how often, and in what situations, the back end will slide like that. IDK, maybe all it will take is a bit of getting used too.
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:06 AM   #25
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Test fit the subframe connectors, passenger side looks good, but the driver side has a couple of issues. Come to find out I've got a cracked floor pan immediately under the driver seat. Its roughly 4" long so hopefully it can just be welded. Anyway, on the rear of the driver side, the area where the connector welds to the frame, appears to have taken a heavy hit and is smashed upwards. There is still a decent amount to weld the connector to, but is it enough? Will I need to have a spacer welded in to close that gap or will it be okay without? Also, I've read some people claiming that the carpet needs to be removed before welding these in, is that true or will it be fine without removing it?

Damage to the driver side subframe. Is this the torque box?


Subframe connector in place, you can see the gap between the connector and the frame.


Passenger side fits nice and flush.


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