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sleeper_inc 10-13-2008 05:19 PM

How to swap in a manaul T5 transmission *56K shoots itself*
 
Ok guys, after my A4LD took a **** on me, I decided I'd go manual...

I bought my T5 from a tow yard for $250 with everything that I wanted off the car.

So here's the specs on the T5

Rebuilt less than 30,000kms ago (around 18,000 miles)
has 3.97 1st gear... other wise stock

I had the flywheel re-surfaced for $50 and trust me, you should all get it done by a shop and not by yourself... It turns out so much better.

Bought a stock replacement clutch kit for a 1988 Mustang 2.3 with an ungraded pressure plate (has 8 extra fingers compared to stock)

Also to give you some helpfull tips, a 2.3 N/A flywheel is made for a 8.5" clutch, SVO flywheel is made for a 8.75" clutch, Merkur flywheel is made for a 9" clutch and the Turbo coupes flywheel is made for 9.25" clutch. a flywheel made for a 8.5" clutch wont work with a 8.75" clutch, and a 9" wont work with a 9.25" clutch soTHEY DO NOT INTERCHANGE!

I'm running a 8.5" clutch and it's holding the power good, but if you're going to have loads of power than I would tell you to grab a TC flywheel and run a 9.25" clutch or a 5.0 clutch with some mods.


This swap will work with almost any fox body ford, you may have to change a few things but it should still follow the same principle.

Cost
Transmission $250
Fly wheel resurfacing $50
Clutch kit $200
Transmission fluid $15

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This is what your shifter should look like

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Remove the robber outlining, this can be thrown away or used to throw at someone who's in your way

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Remove the plastic covering around the shifter to get at the bolts

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4 8mm bolts holding the gear indicator in place. I removed mine (see below) to get better access to the bolts

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This is a connection for your light to show you your gear at night...
Also there are 2 bolts you'll have to remove here

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And here

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You'll have to use a 8mm wrench to get the bolts out from under the dash

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You'll then have to disconnect the shifter linkage with a 13mm wrench to remove the shifter

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It'll take some time but you can get the whole shifter housing out without taking the consul out

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Next remove your exhaust, raise your car and support it properly

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Use a block of wood between the transmission and the jack so you don't punch a hole in it causing transmission fluid to pour all over you

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Next remove your driveshaft. If you don't not have a impact like I did, use a screw driver to keep the pinion from turning on you (id did this as well and yes it dose work

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Auto and manual driveshaft comparison... Do you see why the auto one on the 2.3 wont work now??

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Make sure to bag and tag all your bolts or else you'll lose them (I stopped and lost 3 bolts... damnit!)

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Next is the speedometer and VSS connection on the transmission

sleeper_inc 10-13-2008 05:36 PM

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Remove the VSS/speedometer gear with a 10mm wrench

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It's out!!

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This is the CCL switch on the A4LD's. Driverside just behind the bellhousing

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This is the only 17mm bolt that has to be removed, the rest that hold the transmission to the engine are 13mm

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3 bots holding the starter

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Disconnected the battery, and the transmission fluid lines (make sure to have a drain pan underneath (13mm or 12mm)

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Cut transmission lines

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Auto crossmember held in by the mounts on the frame, and the mounts are held on by one bolt and nut each

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Starter removed, and you can see the converter bolts which are 15mm. Use a wrench and a long pole to keep the engine from turning over when you remove the converter bolts

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Remove the kick down cable

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Remove the crossmember, WHILE THE TRANSMISSION IS SUPPORTED by the jack and pull the transmission out. This transmission is full of FAILURE!

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With the auto out, remove the flex plate remembering to have the engine locked down with a wrench and a pole. Use a breaker bar or a torque qrench to remove the bolts (15mm)

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Now you can see if the seal is leaking, mine was (as you can see) so I replaced with the pictures below

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Use a flat head and a hammer to get into the seal and pry it out

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seal coming out

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Old seal on the left and new on the right

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seals out

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Lube the new seal with motor oil so it wont tare on first fire up and installs easier

sleeper_inc 10-13-2008 05:54 PM

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Oil seal ready to be pushed in

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Using a hammer to drive the seal into place

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Use thread locker on the fly wheel bolts to stop them from backing out on you... This thing weighs 20lbs after getting it resurfaced

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Manual bolt on to, auto on the bottom... You see why you need to grab them before you do the swap?

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Dirty fly wheel installed

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Torquing the fly wheel down to 85ft lbs (I don't want this bitch to get lose!)

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There is a o-ring seal you want pointing towards the transmission

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ionswap050.jpg
Time to clean the fly wheel with acetone to get all the grease and oil off the fly wheel so the clutch wont slip

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ionswap051.jpg
ooooooo clean fly wheel

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Use a long socket and a hammer to knock the pilot bearing into position

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See the alignment tool? USE IT!

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Not so hard? was it

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This is what you use the alignment tool for... It saves you alot of time and headache

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Pressure plate installed with the bolts torqued to 40ft lbs

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Lube the splines on the clutch with the supplied lube

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New throw out bearing installed

sleeper_inc 10-13-2008 06:18 PM

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Shifter in it's place

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Modded auto crossmember

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Added 2 holes and spacers, works perfect

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Modded return line, works fine

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Remove all the covering to get to the bracing

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Remove this so you can drop the steering column and remove the pedals easier

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Remove the connections on the column to make removal easier

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Remove the bolts on the column supports to remove the hood release and drop the column down

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Removing the seat makes this swap a TON easier

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All the connections removed and steering column ready to be removed

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Remove this bolt and pull the steering column if you want it removed, I kept mine in because my bolt was seized on

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These two bolts (and the ones below) hold the brake booster in place, they must be removed (15mm)

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Remove

sleeper_inc 10-13-2008 06:29 PM

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Remove

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Use a long extension to get at the bolts

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Bolts removed, ready for the booster to be pulled forward

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Use the crow bar to forced the brake booster forward to pull the studs forward

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Remove the BSS(?) and the brake light switch, they should slide right off after the lock pin is removed

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More bolts on top (ohhh goody)

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This big bolt is a PITA to remove

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Pedals ready to be removed

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Auto Vs. Manual pedals

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The white outlines need to be cut out to make it fit easier

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Remove the vacuum tree

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Where the speedometer cable goes through the fire wall is where the clutch cable goes through.

sleeper_inc 10-13-2008 06:36 PM

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Left - speedometer cable through the fire wall
right - clutch cable almost installed, just need to put a bolt in that hole

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These cables are in the auto cars right at the back of the fire wall near the wiring harness. These are the clutch safty switch

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They go here

The rest is reverse. The only thing that you would need to do differently is the mounting location of the speedometer cable and the clutch cable.

If you use the auto crossmember then you'll have to drill 2 new holes and use spacers since its going to have to be used in the manual location because it has to be moved back. The manual mounts are wider than the auto mounts, hence the spacers.

mg man 75 10-13-2008 07:47 PM

Awesome Sleeper. Didn't know differant in TC setup. If know it could have got one of these setup this weekend. I didn't need it so didn't both. Cluch pedals bellhousing everything there. Learn something everyday.

Stang2.3 10-13-2008 08:34 PM

SICK!!! Sounds like you had a blast

sleeper_inc 10-13-2008 09:36 PM

Your welcome guys, I had issues finding a good how to so I got as many pictures as I thought it would need ;)

Also the mustang has no grip in 1st at all... It's a whole new animal now :D

Stang2.3 10-14-2008 01:08 PM

Manuals are a whole lot more fun! can't launch a Auto like you can a Manual (at least stock for stock lol)

speedjunkie92 10-14-2008 01:47 PM

where the hell was this when i needed it lol, let me tell you, its a pain in the ass

ExtrmZ 10-14-2008 03:22 PM

This makes me really want to do a manual swap, but i cant find a deal like you got. As of right now, it is cheaper to have someone rebuild my A4LD than to either do it myself, or to do a T-5 swap... i am in a tough situation

sleeper_inc 10-14-2008 05:03 PM

A T5 swap is alot cheaper than a rebuilt A4LD.

The minimum A4LD rebuild will cost $900+

mg man 75 10-14-2008 05:53 PM

Sleeper what did you do about the auto trans neutral/backup switch or does it plug into the 5 speed. I had a 5 speed car just never looked at that area. Some here may need to know. As of a 3 weeks ago knew where a 90 2.3 5speed in j-yard in KY. I can furnish phone number if someone wants to work it out with him.

sleeper_inc 10-14-2008 06:06 PM

If you get the connector it plugs right in where the auto one dose. It works perfect to

ExtrmZ 10-14-2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeper_inc (Post 5546520)

The minimum A4LD rebuild will cost $900+


yeah and i cant find parts for the t5 swap for cheaper than 900

sleeper_inc 10-14-2008 07:38 PM

Keep looking. I couldn't find a T5 for under $500 and then my friend told me about the car I got this one from...

Put an add p or keep an eye on TF or a local forum to get some deals

ExtrmZ 10-14-2008 08:51 PM

ill keep looking, but i am gonna have to make a decision soon, this A4LD isn't gonna hold up much longer

speedjunkie92 10-15-2008 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeper_inc (Post 5547171)
Keep looking. I couldn't find a T5 for under $500 and then my friend told me about the car I got this one from...

Put an add p or keep an eye on TF or a local forum to get some deals

i picked up a WC with a stage 3 clutch for $100

sleeper_inc 10-15-2008 05:43 PM

I've broken it :(

It slips in 1st gear if I get into boost lol

Maybe I should break it in before I romp on it again lol


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