considering buying a turbo'd 2.3

[mustang2.3]

Originally Posted by mg man 75 And looks for fresh oil. Maybe sign of worn turbo or engine or if luck bad pcv valve. Blown headgasket are fairly common but easy to replace. Good luck Maurice why bad luck if the pcv is bad?

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[mustang2.3]

Originally Posted by ponyboy88

haha not sure if you misunderstood. i am doing the 5 lug/4 disk swap on my 89 foxbody, i have 97 cobra spindles for it (of which i paid way way to much). i was just wondering if my 5.0 spindles off my 89 were better brakes then the ones on the stock turbo coupe.

I may modify the exhaust later, but not right away. I want to get the car up and running as quickly as possible, the 8.8 isnt installed, i would need to do the install. Does the 7.5 and 8.8 use the same springs and control arms, brake fittings for the hoses, same MC or booster, all these things would be VERY helpful.

As far as the engine goes, i want to get the intercooler in right away for saftey sake, and then bolt in the t3/t4 turbo since the t3 is shot. With the intercooler what psi should i run? and will i need to run a wastegate?

Real new to turbo's, but if i like it, i may consider going the route of a turbo'd small block instead of a big block in my foxbody, i imagine even with the intercooler and the turbo(s) it be lighter then an aluminum header 460.

ON the I/C dont worry about it that much just dont do like 20psi passes and you will be fine.

[ponyboy88]

eh id rather be safe then sorry. with the fmic would it be a problem if i ran 20-24 psi for daily driving?

[TRBOPWR]

Originally Posted by mustang2.3

why bad luck if the pcv is bad?

I believe he meant that if he was lucky it was the PCV instead of the turbo.


If you just want to get the car together and drive it, just throw a stock TC intercooler on top of the hybrid turbo. An FMIC is an excellent upgrade, but not necessary. Obviously you are going to need to control the boost somehow, your turbo probably has an internal WG. Start the boost low, bump it up until the car starts to knock, then back it off a bit. There is no set boost number, it will vary from setup to setup. Also remember that if you are going to be cranking up the boost you will also have to increase the fuel pressure.

As for the 7.5 to 8.8 swap, I don't know for sure. I swapped the 7.5 out of my Mustang to a TC 8.8 and it bolted right in, I just kept the SVO brakes and axles. I would ASSume yours would also be a direct swap.

Turbo setups are fun, and make great power. Do some research, read up on the subject, begin your education. That is the best time investment you can do if you want to get serious about modding/building a turbo motor.

*EDIT*
"eh id rather be safe then sorry. with the fmic would it be a problem if i ran 20-24 psi for daily driving?"

Can it be done? Yes. But moving into the upper range of those boost numbers would certainly max out the injectors, especially on a bigger hybrid turbos. The FMIC is not the weak point there, it is the fuel delivery. I run an FMIC and 20psi on the stock turbo with the silver car. Other than some issues of blowing off the charge pipe at first, it has worked flawlessly since. Dropped a couple tenths and gained a few mph at the track with just the swap from the stock IC to the FMIC.

[ponyboy88]

i know the car has a mallory fuel pressure regulator, so i guess i could bump the pressure up a bit, what are the stock injectors on these cars, and if i want to raise the injector size what would i need to replace? VAM?? i'll keep it at 20psi in the meantime and if the 88 thats for parts still have the top mount intercooler i will grab it, but it would be good to know. i could grab the stockers off my 5.0 mustang if it would help (19lb?), as well as the intank (190 i think) pump since those will all need to be upgraded on my stang anyway.

Thanks for the help guys.

[ponyboy88]

So according to the email he sent me this is everything he has in the car
a mallory fuel pressure regulator, air intake and bigger mass air, rebuilt motor with 3k mi on it,
larger vam, cone filter, boost controller, hurst short throw, 2.5 inch exhaust with no cat and flowmaster muffler, gauges, dual electric fans,

and it comes with:
5inch custom cowl hood
front mount intercooler
t3/t4 turbo brand new
ranger roller cam
8.8 disk rear with 373

with all that together, im really considering it. itll be just under 3000. What kind of numbers should i be looking at (ballpark) He claimed 300 but that seems unlikely to me, but i could be wrong.

[TRBOPWR]

Not even close to 300, at least not without insane boost numbers. With the hybrid turbo and FMIC mounted with safe boost and timing numbers, I would guess maybe ~230-250hp, but again, just a guess. Some porting on the head and manifold, along with a big downpipe would help some more. Higher boost numbers will raise that significantly, but keeping the car from blowing out a head gasket or something gets tough.

I believe the 86 TC's came with 35# injectors, so needless to say the stock 5.0 ones are worthless. I don't know what computer he is running, but it doesn't really matter. To run bigger injectors you would need some sort of piggy-back or standalone system. I would be wary starting at 20psi, especially on a stock intercooler. You will probably have detonation.

Anyways, as long as the car isn't rusted out, I think 3K sounds pretty good for what you get. But whatever you do.....please don't mount a 5" cowl hood on it.

[ponyboy88]

Originally Posted by TRBOPWR

Not even close to 300, at least not without insane boost numbers. With the hybrid turbo and FMIC mounted with safe boost and timing numbers, I would guess maybe ~230-250hp, but again, just a guess. Some porting on the head and manifold, along with a big downpipe would help some more. Higher boost numbers will raise that significantly, but keeping the car from blowing out a head gasket or something gets tough.

I believe the 86 TC's came with 35# injectors, so needless to say the stock 5.0 ones are worthless. I don't know what computer he is running, but it doesn't really matter. To run bigger injectors you would need some sort of piggy-back or standalone system. I would be wary starting at 20psi, especially on a stock intercooler. You will probably have detonation.

Anyways, as long as the car isn't rusted out, I think 3K sounds pretty good for what you get. But whatever you do.....please don't mount a 5" cowl hood on it.

thanks for the advise and way ahead of you there, i hace a cobra r hood on my stang and consider it more of an annoyance then anything.

[mg man 75]

Originally Posted by mustang2.3

why bad luck if the pcv is bad?

My mess up should read if Lucky is only pcv valve. Cheap fix. On the 4 to 5 lug conversion thought you talking of the turbocoupe. If converting Mustang here is some info.
http://svo73mm.cjb.net/ They changed their site and I don't like. I also hate popups. Maurice