How can I increase low end torque?
08-08-2007, 03:57 PM
#21
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location:
Posts: 394
RE: How can I increase low end torque?
ORIGINAL: samseed101
How do they rob peter to pay paul? You gain both with a spacer.
ORIGINAL: Dath
Yeah. Spacers just rob Peter to pay Paul. I want hp and torque, not one or the other. But I wouldn't do the gears until you run it with those new heads.
Yeah. Spacers just rob Peter to pay Paul. I want hp and torque, not one or the other. But I wouldn't do the gears until you run it with those new heads.
08-08-2007, 03:58 PM
#22
3rd Gear Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South Texas
Posts: 665
RE: How can I increase low end torque?
ORIGINAL: Dath
He's running 3:55s at the moment.
ORIGINAL: samseed101
I wouldn't say to leave the gears stock. But the intake spacers seem to have great benefits and are cheap. I love mine! Not sure what it added for numbes because it's too difficult to gauge at this point. But I AM quite happy with it.
I wouldn't say to leave the gears stock. But the intake spacers seem to have great benefits and are cheap. I love mine! Not sure what it added for numbes because it's too difficult to gauge at this point. But I AM quite happy with it.
08-08-2007, 05:38 PM
#23
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 347
RE: How can I increase low end torque?
sam's right the loss of backpressure kills low end torque while gaining miniscule peak power. also imo your throttle body is a tad overkill for a stock engine. better go with the heads next.
08-08-2007, 05:49 PM
#24
6th Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 5,693
RE: How can I increase low end torque?
ORIGINAL: Dath
You gain horsepower by increasing the intake length? Are you running boost?
ORIGINAL: samseed101
How do they rob peter to pay paul? You gain both with a spacer.
ORIGINAL: Dath
Yeah. Spacers just rob Peter to pay Paul. I want hp and torque, not one or the other. But I wouldn't do the gears until you run it with those new heads.
Yeah. Spacers just rob Peter to pay Paul. I want hp and torque, not one or the other. But I wouldn't do the gears until you run it with those new heads.
But it also keeps everything cooler which slightly helps with air density.
08-08-2007, 06:02 PM
#25
4th Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location:
Posts: 1,892
RE: How can I increase low end torque?
ORIGINAL: Texas5.0
I have made a lot of changes to my car over the last 6 months and I have lost a ton of low end torque and I am not sure why. I thought my power level should be going up not down.
I had:
Cobra upper and lower
stock exhaust
stock mass air and throttle body
stock 19# injectors
I added:
Trick flow upper and lower
BBK shorties
bassani x pipe with cats
flow master cat back
70 mm mass air and throttle body
24# injectors
I have had a major loss of low end torque. I use to be able to break them loose in second, laying a healthy patch,and now I am lucky to get a chirp. My RPM range has increased but the low end power is horrible. Any thoughts on why it went down and how do I get it back?
I have made a lot of changes to my car over the last 6 months and I have lost a ton of low end torque and I am not sure why. I thought my power level should be going up not down.
I had:
Cobra upper and lower
stock exhaust
stock mass air and throttle body
stock 19# injectors
I added:
Trick flow upper and lower
BBK shorties
bassani x pipe with cats
flow master cat back
70 mm mass air and throttle body
24# injectors
I have had a major loss of low end torque. I use to be able to break them loose in second, laying a healthy patch,and now I am lucky to get a chirp. My RPM range has increased but the low end power is horrible. Any thoughts on why it went down and how do I get it back?
if u just want to spend hte tires get some heads and a KB s/c.... ull be grinning from ear to ear
08-08-2007, 07:29 PM
#27
5th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location:
Posts: 3,768
RE: How can I increase low end torque?
ORIGINAL: Dath
You gain horsepower by increasing the intake length? Are you running boost?
ORIGINAL: samseed101
How do they rob peter to pay paul? You gain both with a spacer.
ORIGINAL: Dath
Yeah. Spacers just rob Peter to pay Paul. I want hp and torque, not one or the other. But I wouldn't do the gears until you run it with those new heads.
Yeah. Spacers just rob Peter to pay Paul. I want hp and torque, not one or the other. But I wouldn't do the gears until you run it with those new heads.
08-08-2007, 07:29 PM
#28
4th Gear Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location:
Posts: 1,108
RE: How can I increase low end torque?
Despite the exhaust and gear conversation, the 70mm throttle body seems pretty large for the stock heads and cam.
Why not try the stock TB again? It will only cost ya a couple of gaskets and a little time to change it out. Assuming it will bolt up to the TFS stuff.
Why not try the stock TB again? It will only cost ya a couple of gaskets and a little time to change it out. Assuming it will bolt up to the TFS stuff.
08-08-2007, 08:14 PM
#29
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location:
Posts: 394
RE: How can I increase low end torque?
Yeah. Was wondering how sam was gaining hp from the spacer and figured it had to be boosted.
What size jets you spaying with 10psi and what block, Samseed? I thought about doing both...8-9psi with a 35 shot on my atk308 but have all but given up on the idea for an intercooled Vortech s/c or a single T70 turbo.
What size jets you spaying with 10psi and what block, Samseed? I thought about doing both...8-9psi with a 35 shot on my atk308 but have all but given up on the idea for an intercooled Vortech s/c or a single T70 turbo.
08-08-2007, 08:43 PM
#30
3rd Gear Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South Texas
Posts: 665
RE: How can I increase low end torque?
ORIGINAL: Maxwelhse
Despite the exhaust and gear conversation, the 70mm throttle body seems pretty large for the stock heads and cam.
Why not try the stock TB again? It will only cost ya a couple of gaskets and a little time to change it out. Assuming it will bolt up to the TFS stuff.
Despite the exhaust and gear conversation, the 70mm throttle body seems pretty large for the stock heads and cam.
Why not try the stock TB again? It will only cost ya a couple of gaskets and a little time to change it out. Assuming it will bolt up to the TFS stuff.