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Old 08-11-2007, 04:42 PM
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I have a 91 5.0L. I just had it rebuilt and got it started for the first time today. I removed all of the emissions (EGR, TAD, TAB, and the canister purge valve).

The car ran great when I first started it up. Then I had a real high idle issue, that I finally got resolved. But now I have a new issue.

When I first start it up, the idle bounces up and down about 700rpm. It will eventually smooth out and run good. Then, after about 5 minutes, the idle will start freaking out again, and then the car will die. WHen it dies, it is next to impossible to restart. I tested the TPS, which I dont think is 100% correct, but a new one gave me the same resluts so I took it back. I have also replaced the ignition control module.

Anyone have any ideas what could be going on?
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Old 08-11-2007, 05:00 PM
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I have a 91 5.0L. I just had it rebuilt and got it started for the first time today. I removed all of the emissions (EGR, TAD, TAB, and the canister purge valve).

The car ran great when I first started it up. Then I had a real high idle issue, that I finally got resolved. But now I have a new issue.

When I first start it up, the idle bounces up and down about 700rpm. It will eventually smooth out and run good. Then, after about 5 minutes, the idle will start freaking out again, and then the car will die. WHen it dies, it is next to impossible to restart. I tested the TPS, which I dont think is 100% correct, but a new one gave me the same resluts so I took it back. I have also replaced the ignition control module.

Anyone have any ideas what could be going on?
I would check those vacum lines you removed, alot of em suck air and you will have to plug them. EGR red/green lines. Black ones at the box etc. The EGR being the main culprit, where you took it off the throttle body.

Tps voltage .99 at idle KEY ON ENGINE OFF
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Old 08-11-2007, 05:20 PM
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Yeah, I yanked all of the vaccum lines off, and pluggeg their source. I just ran the diag test, and got the following results.

22 X X X MAP/BP sensor out of self test range.

35 X X PFE or EVP circuit above the maximum limit of 4.81 volts.
X PFE or EVP circuit has intermittently failed above the maximum limit of 4.81 volts.


51 X X ECT sensor signal is greater than the Self-Test maximum of 4.6 volts.

52 X X X Power steering pressure switch always open or closed.

54 X X ACT sensor signal is greater than the Self-Test maximum of 4.6 volts.

67 X X Neutral safety circuit failure.
X A/C circuit was on during KOER Self-Test.


85 X X Canister Purge Solenoid circuit failure.

53 X TPS circuit above maximum 4.5 volts.
X TPS circuit has intermittently failed above maximum 4.5 volts.


25 X Knock not sensed during dynamic test.

So I am now thinking I have some mystery wiring issue somewhere, since the BAP, ACT, TPS, and the EGR are all connected.
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