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Old 06-18-2008, 02:09 PM   #1
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So yesterday, I decided to go out to the garage and disassemble something Worked on it for about 2 1/2 hours total. Goal is to hide as much as possible without cutting any wires, or at least keep it to a minimum, and install a new Jacobs ignition system. So far I have all wiring from the front and driver's side pulled through the fender, haven't had to cut anything except some wiring I ran for the flashers. Not sure what I'm going to be able to do with all the vacuum stuff on the passenger side but will address that later.

Next step will be some rust cleanup before I start mounting parts in the fenderwell to test fit the fenders. Will post up more pics when installation progresses.




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Old 06-18-2008, 02:14 PM   #2
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holy air silencer batman
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Old 06-18-2008, 02:19 PM   #3
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That's just the scoop. The air silencer was removed from it.

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Old 06-18-2008, 09:01 PM   #4
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Congrats...Looks Great!!

You shouldn't have to cut or extend any wires unless you've weld up the inner fender in the engine bay.
I welded up my inner fender and the only 2 sets of wires I had to cut and extend were the wires going to the A/C compressor and the wires to the Overflow bottle.

You can hide all the vacuum lines in the fenders just like the wires.

You can also hide/relocate your brake lines so that there not as noticeableif you're really looking to clean up your engine bay.

Just suggestions...and nothing else, enjoy the project and keep those pics coming.
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:14 PM   #5
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Well I haven't welded up any of the holes and don't plan to right now. Good news is I don't have A/C and my overflow doesn't have the low coolant sensor.

The only wires it looks like i'm going to have to replace is the starter wire to reach the solenoid.

I was more looking to make the bay look a little cleaner and install my ignition. I will look over the brake lines and see what I can do with them. I plan on taking care of the rust first tomorrow night.

Will add more pics probably this weekend.

Almost Stock - Can you post a pic of your engine bay. I think I remember seeing it before in a wire hiding post but don't remember how/where you moved everything.

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Old 06-18-2008, 10:43 PM   #6
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His engine bay is the holy grail of engine bays on here! Be sure to wear a welding helmet when the lights shine on that motor or you will be blinded lol. You can tuck your brake lines under the lip that they sit on.
As you can see in one of my older pics of my engine bay.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:19 AM   #7
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I hid all my wires and I only remember having to extend one or two at the most (don't specifically remember which ones though). I also ran all my vacuum lines into the fender. I just drilled some holes and bolted the mount right onto my frail rail.

This is the picture from the first time I relocated them about a year ago I guess. It didnt turn out the best in the world but for a short weekend worth of work I was pretty happy with the outcome.There are still tons to relocate though, thats for another day lol.

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Old 06-19-2008, 06:26 AM   #8
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I did mine too, there sure is alot of wires, I did the hood cable as well
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No problem.

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Man I love the look of your car!

On the passenger side, moving the vac lines into the fender, do you have to extend any of the lines? I have no smog, just the egr, F/P and intake vac line.

88BlueGT - Mine will look more like yours in the picture. I'm not wanting to spend a ton of time on this. Want to have it wrapped up in time for a weekend drive.

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Don't mean to jack the thread but what is the most common form of filling the holes on the sides of the engine bay and do you hide the vacuum tree in the fender or in the cowl?
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Man I love the look of your car!

On the passenger side, moving the vac lines into the fender, do you have to extend any of the lines? I have no smog, just the egr, F/P and intake vac line.

88BlueGT - Mine will look more like yours in the picture. I'm not wanting to spend a ton of time on this. Want to have it wrapped up in time for a weekend drive.

Thanks for the responses.
Thank you very much for the complement!

As for moving the vacuum lines on the passenger side to under the fender the only vacuum lines I moved was the one for the HVAC, which I did have to extend.

All the other lines vacuum lines that went to the vacuum distribution block are now in the inside of the driver’s side fender, and I did have to extend a few of those vacuum lines also.

My best guess is that you’ll need to spend 4-6 hrs (and possibly less)hiding wires and vacuum lines on both the passenger and driver’s side, along with your hood release, which I wouldn’t call a ton of time to clean up an engine bay.

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Don't mean to jack the thread but what is the most common form of filling the holes on the sides of the engine bay and do you hide the vacuum tree in the fender or in the cowl?
Hopefully it's understood that I'm also not trying to jack 50Trippinthread either, I'm just trying to help if I can ?

With that said:
I’ve read many ways of filling all the holes in the engine bay over the past 8 yrs from ... JB weld, or use tape with filler, POR 15 Epoxy is another method, but the best way seems to be weld… grid… fill… prime, and then paint.

My thought 8 yrs ago was if you drill a hole in the cowl and if it rains or when you wash your car you stand a good possibility of having a leak inside your car, where if you were to put the vacuum tree in the fender it’s protected by the splash shield and no worries about a leak in the inside of your car.
But that’s just me.
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Old 06-19-2008, 10:28 PM   #14
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No worries about "jacking" the thread. I'm interested in the bullet hole filling too. Here's some updated pis of the progress. I decided to mach-up everything that needed to be moved. The starter solenoid is in the stock location till I figure out how and where I'm going to route the new starter cable which does not reach to the fender well.

I'll take care of the rust issue this weekend.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:49 PM   #15
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Well I've finished getting it back together. I decided to hold off on the passenger side wiring and vacuum lines until later this year but for now it stills looks nicer and made it easier to install the ignition system.

There is one new problem though. The part in the picture below was not hooked up to the starter solenoid and my car has run fine for years and charged fine. Now that I have hooked this up the car is not charging and the battery light stays on constantly. Any thoughts?



These are the final pics of the wiring.





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Interesting place for the ignition box. I hope that one is water proof.
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Yeah it is waterproof and the instuctions actually suggest mounting it somewhere in front or near the radiator so it is well ventilated.
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Thelittle silver box; supplies power and overload protection for the power door locks, power windows, and lumbar seats.

I would check some of those locationsfor apossible short or loose ground.

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Old 06-22-2008, 01:19 PM   #19
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Well that would explain why it worked fine with it disconnected. I have manual locks, windows, etc. I will disconnect it for now and track down where it is shorting out later. I don't really feel like fishing under the dash any time soon.
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The little silver thing was not the problem. Disconnected and nothing changed. I guess the additional load of the new ignition system made it clear there was an alternator problem. I took it in and had it tested and it's only putting out 12 volts max. They didn't tell me how many amps but I know obviously not enough. Guess it's time for a 3G upgrade.
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