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Old 11-05-2011, 11:27 PM   #21
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Should have stated as well the remote tfi unit is real close in same connection area.
I did notice that I will have to drill 2 holes and weld a nut on backside of fender so I mount my tfi. Nothing to big to worry on. Reason I want to retain my v-6 cai unit is that it dropped the k@n filter inside the passenger fender, and sat facing the headlight. I can talk another friend into mocking a setup that will drop the thing below my front bumper.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:36 PM   #22
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:58 PM   #23
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Odd on lappy or my evo shift not seeing option to edit. On the plus side I will be sure to post some pics of the questionable plug ins. I did mock up rest of harness with engine on stand found 3 sensors to be swapped off the 93 easy nuff to do while motor is on stand. Also noticed a cut in the red green wiring runningfrom harness to whatever. No biggie I will find where it needs to lead and solder it. Can't be to difficult.
Dad seems more wrapped for this project then me. Being honest kind of scare me a little. Has more interest in this car then painting his 69 cougar.
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:58 AM   #24
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a decent aftermarket EFI intake setup alone is $1500
Please, show me where you buy your intakes, because it sounds like they are made out of gold.

I have a few answers for you. Trans reliability...ok t5s can be good or bad, but try telling the t5 I autocross with is pure garbage, or the one in my ranger I've beat the hell out of.

Your theory on opinions is like this, your carb preference is an opinion, and what I saw wasn't very intelligent on the subject matter. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge, btw, not stupidity. If you are ignorant on the topic, which sounds like you are, then cure it with study. I have had one car that was carbed, they end up needing rebuilt after a while and if you don't know how to tweak them they are a hassle. Your throttle response im betting was on a tweaked carb, factory spec efi vs carb the efi is going to win with much less excessive fuel use
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:38 AM   #25
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:54 AM   #26
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Sounds like your dad has some knowledge on the subject and good score with the stuff he brought back...

If the 93 motor he has has factory internals it is NOT forged.....
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:39 PM   #27
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Add thanks for the help. Resto no the motor isnt factory by any means. By the way Resto, love the car write up in your siganture.
P I would buy the tach in a heartbeat, but well want the factory tach that thing looks like a monster to hide. Trying to remain as inconspicuous as possible. Bad enough I am 15 and am in a mustang, let alone advertising, um, no thanks.
One other thing I am going to ask guys. I'm not sure whats in the air, but cant we all just relax a bit more with one and other? There is no need for such hostility.
Anways here is the history I have on the motor.......
Appears the t-bird was on the hoist dad was doing an oil change,had to sit the car on ground with pan under it to let oil finish draining, as he had to run get a few things. Mom not knowing, decided she needed to run to the store 3 miles down the road, drove there and back, with the t-bird. Dad comes home, see's the t-bird sitting in front of garage, not on the hoist. Walks in and asks her what the car was doing outside, she replied, making funny noises when you start it.
Car had 138k on it when he scrapped the body, though there is only like 30k on it total from the rebuild. Last time car ran, was in 07 according to dad, motor was pulled and placed on a stand, next to a 85 cougar he bought while in Georgia for 325, then drove to Michigan. I do know at one time there was a plan to place the motor in the cfi car, but he couldnt hack the car up. It rests in the back of the garage as well with 118k on the odometer. I really love that car.
Anyways I learned last night, there is a plan for head swap, cam, and of course neccessary swap items, plus shooting the underhood area black.
As stated I would have gone carbed route, and may have even talked my Dad into his boss 302 sitting in the corner. But then again its not my dime building this car, its his.. I am just along for whatever he chooses to do with the car. Call me a passenger with a wrench at this moment. So far to date, a fresh oil pan, oil pump, the wiring harness, and whatever he spent for head gasket set and the trans, is all there it into the car.
Plan is to befinished sometime in the spring, as there is no rush, and promises of me turning most of the wrenches.
Enough rambling I got to head for the shop and clean, so I can earn my exhaust. No work done today on car, other then dropping the oil pan and pulling the old pump. Trash bag covering motor once again.
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:26 PM   #28
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O.k got back from work, looked my harness over again, and have to lengthen my water temp sensor wire, its a little short running to the birds water line.
Strangely Photbucket is acting up so cant even upload pictures of current work. I did notice my headers have the studs busted off inside them. No biggie as I borrowed a set dad had laying around for one of his older projects. Also grabbed his oil pan, as mine had the knock sensor/oil pressure sender in the pan.
Have to either delete the egr or fix its tube, darn thing broke when I took the upper pan off.
So still to do, mount body harness drivers side (after my uncle paints it), mount heads, cam. Pick up an oil pressure sensor, then mount trans to motor, install. Oh and pick up motor mounts.
On a side note, I started the cougar and let it run. Dad smiled half heartedly and asked if I wanted to go for a drive, we ended up taking it to the end of the drive over to the neighbors and back. Man, I wish he would on that car. I was about 6 or 7 when he stopped driving it, some paint that thing would be a nice ride, oh well
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:32 PM   #29
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What year harness are you using again??

Its the low oil sensor...not a knock or pressure sensor... The oil pressure sending unit goes in the driver side of the block right behind the timing cover...
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Its the low oil sensor...not a knock or pressure sensor... The oil pressure sending unit goes in the driver side of the block right behind the timing cover...
My main harness is from a 95. The donor motor is a 93 tbird, on the drivers side block sits a 3 wire plug halfway up the pan. removing its harness almost meet wire clippers, but the old man said, listen I am giving you parts to do your ride, and someday, I may need that harness for the 85. So after fighting a bit with the clip, I dropped my front accessories and finally got the clip off, and ditched the rest of the old harness removed.
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Old 11-06-2011, 08:05 PM   #31
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I am now having phone issues, but at least I got a few pics up on this beast. Anyways a few pics I took of the car right before stuff got pulled, and other thing were done. nothing to write home about, other then it is a generally clean car.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:14 PM   #32
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Got plugged figure out, dads soldering as we speak, he texted me said he used the 93 harness to trace it to the condensor. Wow woulda never thought.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:16 PM   #33
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Off to sleep, cant wait for weds, as I will be there to work a bit on the car. Probably wont post nothing new till weekend.
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Old 11-07-2011, 12:46 AM   #35
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LOL tapatalk alerted me to new message, set to public, back to bed, 7 a.m comes soon enough.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:23 PM   #36
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You're going to run into some oddball issues trying to go about doing this without matching components. It would be an extremely wise idea to invest in some 94/95 parts instead of trying to pull foxbody parts. The 94/95 5.0s are different for a reason.

With that said the motor you have is fine, but you should get a 94/95 upper/lower intake, front brackets, power steering, alternator, timing chain cover, water pump, and smog pump delete pulley and A/C.

I have the front two brackets I'll give you, all you need to do is pay for shipping if you want them. I have them left over as spares from when I just did my rebuild.

You should also look into getting a 94/95 full wiring harness. It is different than the 93 and back. You can find them on ebay for very cheap.

Then find a 94/95 air intake and throttle body.

Another part you'll need that you don't have will be a 94/95 K member for the 5.0, it is different than the V6 and or later model 4.6L k members if memory serves me correctly.

You can fit foxbody parts in a 94/95 but it is a pain in the butt to say the least. It would probably be cheaper for you to just buy a 94/95 engine assembly than to try to piece it all together.

I know what it's like to be on a budget, but the way you're going is gonna cause a lot of headaches trying to get odd ball parts to fit.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:10 PM   #38
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Jthorn, deal just need know what shipping is to 48657. We are still in parts gathering mode, Though the harness was already gathered, and partially run. We are nowhere near assembly yet, still have to rip heads off for another pair, replace oil pump, and cam (all dads insistance). Run drivers side harness, and a ton of other small things. K-member if it presents its ugly head, am sure will get worked out somehow dad dont start many projects and not finish them,.
O.k so waiting on dad to return from chicago at moment, as he called and said he be here soon, and I am not to touch anything on the car at the moment.
First thing I am doing for sure, after I leave this computer is to start cleaning a mess that appeared after I left. Looks as if a tornado hit the inside, and tossed stuff everywhere. Cant walk thru the barn without stumbling into dirt, dust, & car parts.
My Uncle stated something bout the car going to his garage for touchup paint. Not entirely sure though.
On a brief throw a log a in the furnace garage walk, I noticed the bottom end of the 302 is missing its crank. Looked around its not in the barn,hmmm.... Although there is a new stack of parts, among them a new set of "used" headers sitting near car, and my exhaust is completely off car, from front to rear, and laying in front of the garage door. Cats appear to be missing from the pile, hmm....
Transmission is laying near the motor stand, not under a bench I had stashed it at, The v-6 as well is near the front of the door with its trans gone, another hmmm......

on a side note... As our deer season starts tuesday, and runs till end of month, probably wont get very much done in next couple of days let alone weeks. We hunt 4 hrs away at our cabin, which we are leaving Sunday morning to go to, so tonight and a little bit of tomorrow is all I have for time for the rest of this month.
Anyways off to clean the barn, later I will try to post a picture, but definitely not one of this mess.

P.S Motorman thanks for the post bro, way cool, hope your car is coming along well, will check see if any new progress, later when I get done in the barn.
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All that BS about finding the parts needed that were only made for 2 years is why I am not converting my wife's 98 to a v8. Instead I am doing a 4.2 stroker with a M90 on top eventually...

Good luck with the rest of it. Its always nice having other people to help out.
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Send me a PM with your contact information and I can help you more. I also have a 95 ECU which will work much better with the car. I also have a 94/95 harness that goes from the battery to the alternator. This is a harder part of the harness to find. It's also in really good condition.

Send me a PM and let me know what you want, I'll sell that small part of the harness to you and the ECU for cheap. I just need the stuff to go. I would of sold you the entire intake assembly but I scrapped it instead.

Oh...I also have a stock 95 throttle body.

Just to help you out here are links to the odd ball parts you'll need:

Radiator
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSTANG-5-SP...sories&vxp=mtr

Great Deal...all the external accessories you'd need.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/94-95-MUSTAN...sories&vxp=mtr

Water Pump
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OAW-Wate...sories&vxp=mtr

Timing Chain Cover
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-1995-Fo...sories&vxp=mtr

94/95 GT-40 Upper/Lower intake, better than the standard intake
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-1995-FO...sories&vxp=mtr

Computer Harness
http://www.ebay.com/itm/94-95-Mustan...sories&vxp=mtr

Engine Harness
http://www.ebay.com/itm/94-95-Mustan...sories&vxp=mtr
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