Jly154

Oh well the way I figure it this way the stuff I replace I won't have to worry about for a while but it's sure be nice if I could drive er before it snows again in a couple days lol I'll have to try that in the morning when I get off thanks for your help I appreciate it

Jly154

So I was thinking to a while back when I had this same issue with my 95 f250 I had to replace the ignition control module could this maybe be what is causing my crank no start condition and If it is where would it be located all I can find is stuff on the constant control relay module does my car not have an ICM and a ccrm instead?

Chromeshadow

This is a very easy way to tell if it's an ignition problem or not getting fuel. If it doesn't start for a few seconds with this trick, you should focus on the ignition.

Jly154

Ok so I know for sure that I have no fuel pressure the little thing that looks like a valve stem coming off the fuel rail has nothing at all coming out now yesterday it dribbled out but nothing now I still don't know yet for sure if it's just the fuel or both I'll have to run to Vatozone to get some ether and I'll give that a try thank you for your input

Jly154

Update so I tried some starting fluid and as I thought I don't have any spark at all either along with no fuel could the CCRM be causing this? Or just happen to have that something like coil and fp quit on me?

Jly154

Anybody?

Chromeshadow

I'd check them separately, I'd start by making sure the fuel pump has Voltage. If there is no voltage to the pump, I'd wire it right to the battery and see if you get fuel. If the pump runs when you put 12 V on it, the pump is OK. If the car starts then, the ignition is OK. Might be a good idea to check the fuel filter to make sure it's OK

Urambo Tauro

So it sounds like you have both a fuel pressure problem and a spark problem. Very odd for both to act up at the same time. Looking back at the earlier posts in this thread, this caught my eye:

Maybe we need to give this possibility a closer look? I've never had to deal with the PATS system, as my car doesn't have this transponder key setup. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than I will chime in soon. At any rate, your car's previous owner seems to have suspicions about it...

Is your THEFT light doing anything?

Jly154

Well that was my fist thought was maybe a security system but then when I replaced the ground wire from battery to block I figured it fried something

Jly154

So today I tried starting it today first with the SPOUT in and no spark then with the SPOUT unplugged and I got a spark anybody have any thoughts on this?