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Old 10-12-2009, 09:54 AM
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My girlfriends dad sold his mustang to my friend for $3500. Its a 95 5speed gt with 113k bone stock. When I was driving it I was not happy with the power at all. It was the slowest mustang I have ever driven. I raced him with my dads 91 fox all stock except for flowmaster cat back, it even has the stock 2.73 or what ever they are. I killed him it wasn't even close. He is not the best driver so I thought maybe that could be part of it. So I got in the 95 and raced my friend in a 01 grand am gt auto. I even jumped early and went right after the second horn and only won by about a car. When I raced the grand am in my 02 gt I killed him so his car is nothing special. So I just wanted to know if there was something wrong with his stang or if the 95's are just to fat to be fast? I know what to for more power just didn't know if this stock stang was suppose to be this slow.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:16 AM
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It could b a few things first off it is between 600-800lbs. heavier than a fox body with the same amount of hp. I would make sure it has a good air filter and fuel filter sometimes those can hurt a car alot. If the check engine light is on make sure u find out y. Also a tune up wouldn't hurt.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:39 PM
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When I bought my 95 it was slow. It got poor gas mileage and ran 0-60mph in like 11 or 12 seconds. I tuned it up and Its a completely different car now. with an auto trans and 2.73 gears I can get 0-60 mph in under 7 seconds with just an intake.
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Back in 95, various magazine tests recorded mid-low 15's out of them Bone stock. I like to think that is slow. But, remember, the 94-95 motor is actually the motor out of the Thunderbird. It employs a more restricting intake manifold, some truck torque cam and an emissions friendly ECU. Add an extra 200lbs over the previous fox body and these cars do not scream performance. Oh and these car LOVE to ping, primarily due to the Ford Guru's in the tuning department. But retarding the timing to 7 degrees(ugh) should cure that or you could run premium. Luckily, light bolton's go a long way in spicing up the performance.
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Originally Posted by hpi09
It could b a few things first off it is between 600-800lbs. heavier than a fox body
Yeah the weight difference is nowhere near that much.


As far as backing the timing off to 7 degrees that's retarded, most 5.0s run 12-14 degrees timing just fine and it does give you a li'l extra kick...

the stock 5.0s were a good deal slower than the PI 4.6s but with a few bolt ons you can make up the difference quickly.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OnyxCobra
Yeah the weight difference is nowhere near that much.


As far as backing the timing off to 7 degrees that's retarded, most 5.0s run 12-14 degrees timing just fine and it does give you a li'l extra kick...

the stock 5.0s were a good deal slower than the PI 4.6s but with a few bolt ons you can make up the difference quickly.
No,no, I mean that the 94-95 GT's are notorious for pinging and that even @ 10 degrees, they ping like crazy on 87 pump. Only way to fix it is to retard the timing or cough up the cash and run premium. I know that you can run 12+degrees easily, but not on 87. Not sure about the Cobra's though....
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:59 PM
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interesting, I've honestly never heard of a stock Mustang pinging. Kind of defeats the purpose of being stock one would think.
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Yeah, both of my mustang's pinged when stock. Running premium fixed the problem for both. But adding aluminum heads to my SC car cured the problem and allowed me to even run 87 effectively w/14 degrees timing.
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When mine was bone stock and running 87 octane, never had any issues even during the hot summer. I am running 16 degrees right now with bolt ons and 93 octane still no problems. From what I am understanding (please correct me if I am wrong), Ford backed down on the timing at WOT, SN95's .
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Originally Posted by MADMAC
When mine was bone stock and running 87 octane, never had any issues even during the hot summer. I am running 16 degrees right now with bolt ons and 93 octane still no problems. From what I am understanding (please correct me if I am wrong), Ford backed down on the timing at WOT, SN95's .
I believe that is Correct! It was used to prolong transmission life especially under power-shifts!
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