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K&N and Mobil 1 are pretty much the same filter. The media is made by the same company, it's a high efficiency synthetic filter. They both have very sturdy casings(I've never crushed either one) but I have heard of the rolls bursting on the Mobil 1's, though I've never seen it in person or heard from someone who had it happen(it's always a friend of a friend story). They are both uber-filters in terms of particle filtration. MC FL1A also uses a synthetic media, but not quite as high efficiency, and though the case can be crushed, they're not prone to bursting or leaking. Wix is the same as NAPA, and is a non synthetic media but well made, with a flexible case like the FL1A, but not prone to bursting either. Those are all good filters in terms of quality, anti-drainback valves, springs, media etc.
I have a K&N on mine now, but the FL1A is probably the best bang for the buck filter.
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The point is that the Super Tech oil filters are very inexpensively made and might not be the best choice when it comes to an oil filter. Oil filters that can be crushed/dented with your bare hands I feel have a very weak casing and can be easily punctured by road debris kicking up and hitting it. In many years of being in the automotive repair industry, I have seen this happen a few times. It is of course, unusual, but when we have an engine worth thousands and thousands of dollars at stake, it might be wise to spend $3-$5 more for an oil filter that will do a better job of protecting that expensive engine. I personally think it's penny wise and pound foolish to go the cheap route and use cheap filters and oil with an engine that is worth thousands, when for just a little more we can substantially upgrade the protection that oil filter and oil provides. The title of this thread is, "Best Oil Filter?", not, "What's the Cheapest/Lowest Quality Oil Filter Available?". Further, if the oil filter can be dented/crushed merely by hand, what does this say about the quality of the internal parts of that oil filter that we can't see? I wouldn't trust something like that in an engine worth thousands. If it was a farm car used to haul manure between barns, sure, but not for a daily driver and certainly not for a great car like a Mustang.
I'd like some proof of all this garbage you just posted. Just because something is cheaper than another product that you're paying for the NAME of doesn't mean it's not built well. The last time i was at walmart i compared the labels of the supertech synthetic oil and the mobil 1 oil and they were identical, the supertech being half the price. Does it protect as well as the mobil 1? Who knows, but it's not in my engine for enough miles to make a difference.
And I wouldn't consider a 5.0 mustang a "great" car lol, and a vehicle hauling heavy loads would need better engine protection than half of our daily driven Mustangs.
I'd like some proof of all this garbage you just posted. Just because something is cheaper than another product that you're paying for the NAME of doesn't mean it's not built well. The last time i was at walmart i compared the labels of the supertech synthetic oil and the mobil 1 oil and they were identical, the supertech being half the price. Does it protect as well as the mobil 1? Who knows, but it's not in my engine for enough miles to make a difference.
The Product Data Sheets for the two oils shows they are very different products. One is formulated for performance/protection and the other is formulated to meet a price range. Two entirely different goals.
Improved fuel economy, reduced wear, easier winter starts, lower emissions, superior high temperature protection, etc., are all benefits a superior oil will provide, regardless of how long the oil remains in the engine or not.
But it's particularly easy to crush/bend with your bare hands, compared to other better quality oil filters that can cost less to use.
"You getsy what you pays for"
your right, I gotsy 112k worth of flawless service, you don't get any more proof then that and it's a diesel, proving the naysayers wrong is just what my supertech powered jetta does
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The Product Data Sheets for the two oils shows they are very different products. One is formulated for performance/protection and the other is formulated to meet a price range. Two entirely different goals.
Improved fuel economy, reduced wear, easier winter starts, lower emissions, superior high temperature protection, etc., are all benefits a superior oil will provide, regardless of how long the oil remains in the engine or not.
aaaaand where is this data sheet? I know at one point Mobil 1 was actually the supplier of the Supertech oil. I can also pretty much guarantee you that you would not notice a difference in fuel economy, engine wear, easier starting etc between Mobil 1 and the Supertech Synthetic oil, i believe you're just falling victim to the Mobil 1 propaganda.
The Product Data Sheets for the two oils shows they are very different products. One is formulated for performance/protection and the other is formulated to meet a price range. Two entirely different goals.
Improved fuel economy, reduced wear, easier winter starts, lower emissions, superior high temperature protection, etc., are all benefits a superior oil will provide, regardless of how long the oil remains in the engine or not.
The raw oil in SuperTech is the same raw oil in Mobil 1 as it is their supplier, the difference is the detergents, I saw and read the contract, this was awhile back, idk if the contract has expired/been renewed.
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I know at one point Mobil 1 was actually the supplier of the Supertech oil.
yes, but its not the exact same oil in each bottle, read above
one looks like the case may have been a valvoline filter???, either way still won't change my opinion 112 supertech "k" strong and counting, proof is doing
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