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Old 11-07-2010, 06:36 PM   #1
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I am planning on rebuilding a 302 fox body. And looking to upgrade a few things. One idea that came to mind is putting a newer dash into it. Has anyone tried to put a 2005 or newer dash into a fox body? is it do able without too much work? i'm not afraid to cut a little plastic, i just want to see if anyone has tried it, and just how involving it gets.
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:22 PM   #2
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ive seen an sn95 dash and door panels in a fox but never a 05 or newer...
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:00 PM   #3
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anything is possible with enough money, tho prepare for a TON of work, considering youd have to do custom gauges since the s197 is alll electric as well as routing the hvac system, and that the fox is a much narrower car, oh and the s197 shares no body mounts with the fox chassis. better off swapping in an sn95 dash... still alot of work, but less of a headache
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:39 PM   #4
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I am actually in the process of doing this project on mine. When I get back from work tonight I will sit down and post some pictures, advice, and some of the challenges I am facing. Hopefully they will be good planning factors for you and your project.

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Old 11-19-2010, 04:41 PM   #5
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I am actually in the process of doing this project on mine. When I get back from work tonight I will sit down and post some pictures, advice, and some of the challenges I am facing. Hopefully they will be good planning factors for you and your project.

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I'd really like to see how the swap on this goes, be sure to post lots of pictures and detail
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:52 AM   #6
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Before I begin let me explain, I am definitely not a skilled technician when it comes to rebuilds and restoration. I did grow up in a house where my step-father restored old fords, and among seeing the projects he hobbied with and coupled with owning a lot of junkers over the years I have spent some time being able to distinguish the basics, but I am definitely not a skilled mechanic that can tell you how to get 1.21 gigo-watts out of the flux capacitor. Additionally this project is an addition to an existing project, but then again aren't they all in some matter of retrospect. I started the original project in December of 2008 but had to put it away several times for extended periods of time because of deployments overseas. It seems every time I begin working on the Stang again I find myself back in the sandbox or in another country.

My Stang originally started out as a 1990 4 Cyl LX convertible. A purchased it off of craigslist for $50.00. It was running fine, however I wanted a 5.0. That was my dream car back in highschool. So I bought a 1988 5.0 donor, and did the 4 cyl, rear end, transmission swap. I also added an X-Pipe and changed from 4 lugs to 5 lug. Concurrently I began working on the aesthetics of the interior and exterior with new carpet and other upgrades and refinishing items. Before I could put the finishing touches on the engine and complete the wiring I had to deploy. During which time the dash was completely out. During the entire deployment all I could think of was how much I disliked the 1990 dash and steering wheel. I especially didn't like the fact that the steering wheel could not be tilted down. Thus I decided to see if it was possible to put a 2005 dash in. I wasn't too fond of the older versions from 1994-2004, but I really liked the dash of the 2005, it just reminded me of the 65+ Stangs. Thus I added this project to the list.

After pulling a dash, frame, wiring harness, instrument panel, steering wheel column and steering wheel from a salvage yard I began to measure, and research. From what I have found thus far this is an advanced project in and out. Thankfully I have some friends down at the hobby shop here that I can go to for assistance as needed. I almost scrapped the project at first but after looking at the 1990 steering wheel I was reinvigorated.

Here are some of the big topic concerns right off the bat. First the 2005 dash space is nearly three times the amount of cubic space that a fox body has. Trade off for me would be to do a lot of cutting out items or modifying them; for example A/C hosing and radio. Second, the dash is longer in length than the foxbody and the a bracket has to be fabricated to fit to the inner walls of the vehicle. Third, once the dash frame is adjusted and secured inside the vehicle the dash skin has to be cut and new holes need to fabricated for windshield vents as well. Fourth, 2005 instrument cluster is digital, thus custom speedometer, tach, oil, fuel, temperature, etc. . . have to be found and purchased. Fifth because the wiring is well over 15 years difference nothing matches up, but by getting the wiring harness from the 2005 I am going to do some splicing of connectors. Sixth, the steering column will not match up with the rack and pinion but you can cannibalize the end of the 1990 steering column and have it machined to the 2005 steering column. Seventh, Door handles will be uncomfortably close to the dash. I have not been a fan of where the door handle was located to begin with so I am moving them closer to the arm rest and suedo-designing a new layout for the door panels. Final point for now, the gear shifter and center console need to be modified. I plan on placing an extender on the gear shift that will move the gear shifter back several inches. The center console is going to be re-designed more to follow on that as the dash gets nearer to completion. These are the big items that I can think of without hitting my notes, but guarantee as I progress with the project I will post more.

Just as I was able to get most of my research done I ended up have to deploy back to back. Now that I am home again I have reorganized the garage to be able to work, reviewed my notes and am prepping to head to the shop with my stang and begin working on getting the frame in. So there will be more to follow with more precise details from final measurements.

Adding pictures to this isn't as user friendly as I thought it would be. Is the only way to insert a pic from my desktop by "insert address to file"? I'll keep my fingers crossed that it works.

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Old 11-20-2010, 07:07 AM   #7
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Attempt #2 on adding pics.

Here's the link to an "album" on my profile that should let you see the pics.

If there is an easier way to add pics, do tell.

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Old 11-20-2010, 04:04 PM   #8
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pics look awesome
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Old 11-21-2010, 05:32 AM   #9
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Thanks! I have a lot of work ahead of me. Starting to build the brackets for the frame tomorrow.
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Old 11-21-2010, 02:38 PM   #10
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Hey,

What do you guys do about the VIN numbers stamped to the dash? Switch them out? Ive often pondered that question.
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Old 11-21-2010, 02:58 PM   #11
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^VINSs aren't stamped on the dash, they are riveted on a piece of metal that is placed just below the windshield.
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:25 PM   #12
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Wow. I'm very surprised that the dash looks so at home in the fox. O.O
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^VINSs aren't stamped on the dash, they are riveted on a piece of metal that is placed just below the windshield.
Thanks for the answer I have never had the priviledge of removing a dash on any vehicle yet
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:32 PM   #14
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That is absolutely impressive, and thanks for your service!
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:09 AM   #15
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Dang dude that looks awesome! Sounds like a ton of work, but that is for sure the 1 and only 05+ dash project I've personally seen in a foxbody. Looks great.

As for uploading pictures, i just use imageshack.us

Upload it from there and copy and paste the code that says forumcode1 or something along those lines.
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Thanks all! Hope all of ya had a great Thanksgiving.

More pic's coming soon. I finished the brackets for the dash frame and welded them on this last weekend. Just gave the frame a fresh coat of paint tonight. Now getting ready to set it up to bolt into the vehicle.

Anyone have any thoughts on instrument gauges? I need to get a 5 inch mechanical Speedo, and 5 inch mechanical Tach. Do they make any 1 1/2 or 1 inch Fuel, water temp, volt, and oil gauges? I've been eyeing some Auto Meter Sport Comp Gauges that are basic black and chrome. The only draw back thus far is the oil, temp, volt, fuel gauges are bigger then what I am looking for.

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i cant wait to see how this comes along i loved my 05 mustang gt's interior this should be awsome
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you could get a gauge dash mount for that dash it fits three gauges in it. looks good
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Thanks all! Hope all of ya had a great Thanksgiving.

More pic's coming soon. I finished the brackets for the dash frame and welded them on this last weekend. Just gave the frame a fresh coat of paint tonight. Now getting ready to set it up to bolt into the vehicle.

Anyone have any thoughts on instrument gauges? I need to get a 5 inch mechanical Speedo, and 5 inch mechanical Tach. Do they make any 1 1/2 or 1 inch Fuel, water temp, volt, and oil gauges? I've been eyeing some Auto Meter Sport Comp Gauges that are basic black and chrome. The only draw back thus far is the oil, temp, volt, fuel gauges are bigger then what I am looking for.

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try these guys they may be able to convert the s197 gauges into mechanical. saw an article in hotrod about them they do amazing work.

will prolly cost you a few bucks but having factory appearing gauges in this setup would be sweet
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i actually had no idea what to expect when i first opened this thread, but to be honest, i think it looks far better than the old SN swap into the fox IMHO.

ive always been a fan of the 3 spoke wheels in the S197's, kinda want to do that to my SN...
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