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90nSSMD 04-15-2014 07:12 PM

Picked up a new notch!
 
Was down in Seaford DE visiting my uncle (I live 100+ miles away, and I was there doing some awfully rough plumbing work for one of his friends over the weekend), when I came across a deal that I just couldn't get my mind off of. I drove out to look at the car, and the only defect I could find was a minor bend in the rear decklid of the car. Another 24 hours of mindless thinking on whether or not I should have shelled out the money immediately, I couldn't waste anymore time, and 2k later.. This:

1990 LX Notchback Roller

No Engine, No Trans.

Here's the list of what was obtained (most of the suspension stuff is new in boxes and hasn't been installed yet)..

-Weld Wheels (Draglites) with good 275/60/R15 tires, skinnies on front but dry-rotted
-Stock Driveshaft
-Slotted Rotors with new Wheel Bearings and Ball Joints
-Eibach Lowering Springs
-BBK Upper/Lower Control Arms
-Strange Adjustable Front Shocks/Rear Struts
-BBK Sub Frame Connectors
-BBK Caster Camber Plates
-Near fully restored interior (new headliner, new carpet, new door panels, new center console, some billet stuff)
-TWO Corbeau CR1 Leather Racing Seats ($1251 on American Muscle)
-Cervini 4" Cowl
-New GT Front Bumper Cover
-Old LX Front Bumper Cover (needs to be heat treated)
-FULL 306 Engine Assembly (Minus Block) w/Cobra Upper/Lower, Two Cams (one is an E303 I think), GT40 Heads, etc
-Kooks Ceramic Longtubes (need some spot welds)
-Full 44 Series setup (shorty h pipe to tailpipes)
-8.8 with 4.10s

:icon_worthless:

GT Bumper is just there as a mock-up.

http://i61.tinypic.com/14mrno2.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/zmcqaq.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/2rr1af4.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/33nhk5y.jpg

I used to think Notchbacks were ugly as sin before I saw this one. I'm not sure what swayed me over to falling in love, but it was instant joy when the title was handed to me.

Didn't get any pictures of anything else as I was in too much shock from how beautiful the car was on the trailer :icon_goofygrin:. Next time I'm down there (should be making regular weekend trips), I'll try to take as many pictures as I can and keep this thread updated with progress!

Any ideas on what I should do in terms of an engine build? This would be my first ground-up engine build if I decide to take on the task (which I really am eager to try).

I have a current 1990 GT with a Forged Bottom End 306, New Spec Stage 3 Clutch, and Rebuilt WC T-5. Think I should just swap over to the newer (and much straighter/cleaner) chassis while I build something on the side?

65Raven65 04-15-2014 08:26 PM

Nice score, I love coupes.

Gonna be some work, but you've got a nice foundation, congrats!

bluebeastsrt 04-15-2014 08:53 PM

Looks like the making of a good race car. I have a 5.0 block loaded with a new trick flow cam and new oil pump I'll sell cheap when you need an engine. Im going to a dart 363. Also have a ton of performance parts if interested. PM me.

90nSSMD 04-15-2014 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 65Raven65 (Post 8376594)
Nice score, I love coupes.

Gonna be some work, but you've got a nice foundation, congrats!

Thanks! I now have two project cars lol. Although one is just a beat up daily for the time being. Minimal money just to keep her going while I save up for mods on the notch!

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Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt (Post 8376601)
Looks like the making of a good race car. I have a 5.0 block loaded with a new trick flow cam and new oil pump I'll sell cheap when you need an engine. Im going to a dart 363. Also have a ton of performance parts if interested. PM me.

How much is cheap? ;)

bluebeastsrt 04-15-2014 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90nSSMD (Post 8376602)
Thanks! I now have two project cars lol. Although one is just a beat up daily for the time being. Minimal money just to keep her going while I save up for mods on the notch!



How much is cheap? ;)

$300 and I'd help you pull it out of the car if you provide a engine jack.[/

90nSSMD 04-15-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt (Post 8376607)
$300 and I'd help you pull it out of the car if you provide a engine jack.[/

I sent you a PM. Didn't see this until now.

That's definitely a do-able price. Keep in touch, will definitely let you know when we can work something out!

bluebeastsrt 04-15-2014 09:17 PM

No problem It'll take ford strokers a few months to get my motor done.

9redfox3 04-16-2014 06:25 AM

nice project car good find !

88 orangepeel notch 04-16-2014 08:46 AM

Congrats, I wish my strut towers and frame rails looked like that lol.

And I felt the same way about my notch when I got it. I never cared for the look of them, but man they grow on you with the right stance.

Congratulations, good find.

90nSSMD 04-16-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 9redfox3 (Post 8376695)
nice project car good find !

Thanks! I know a lot of people who look for these cars can go through as many as 40+ different cars before they find the right one. The guy I got it from did just that, and when I looked over the car it was amazing that nobody had shelled out the money before me! I was METICULOUS when I looked it over. Originally when I saw the decklid I just noticed a quarter inch gap between the decklid and the weatherstrip. Thought it was a minor bend in the chassis or maybe a bad hinge. Looked behind the trunk liner and couldn't find anything so I looked at the lines of the trunk. Lo and behold, someone without much thought process put on the saleen wing and torqued down the bolts too much :icon_shrug:


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Originally Posted by 88 orangepeel notch (Post 8376771)
Congrats, I wish my strut towers and frame rails looked like that lol.

And I felt the same way about my notch when I got it. I never cared for the look of them, but man they grow on you with the right stance.

Congratulations, good find.


I take it your car has seen a good amount of track time then? :icon_teeth:

I'm already in the area of taking extra precautions with the frame and suspension/brakes before I decide to turn the car into a gangbuster. Strut tower brace, Shock tower brace, new sway bars and link kits, the sub frame connectors (which I plan to bolt in then weld), etc. I feel while it's off the road without anything in it, that now would be the best time to get the frame nice and tight.


Also, what's everyone's thoughts on paint? I personally think black is too common, but still appealing (not to mention its hard for an amateur like me to detail).

I'm leaning towards going with something like Plum Crazy Purple. I think ford has the color code GN7 (I think?) which is a replica or very close to that. With a black undercoat the purple is very deep and rich.

Thoughts on engine mounts? Would stock solid mounts do me just fine, or is there an advantage to shelling out money for polyurethane?

88 orangepeel notch 04-16-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 90nSSMD (Post 8376896)




I take it your car has seen a good amount of track time

Oh no, it has seen a good amount of time in Wisconsin winters. Severe rot on the tower and passenger side frame rail. It does see the track 2-3 times a year. But worried it won't be coming back one of these times lol.

90nSSMD 04-18-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 88 orangepeel notch (Post 8376968)
Oh no, it has seen a good amount of time in Wisconsin winters. Severe rot on the tower and passenger side frame rail. It does see the track 2-3 times a year. But worried it won't be coming back one of these times lol.


That sounds just like my 90 GT. It's a daily (call me crazy lol), but it's been fun. I baby it almost always. Every now and again I'll get on the throttle but nothing excessive.

Salty roads tore my car up this winter (last winter was very warm for whatever reason). The notch is just going to be a garaged weekend and occasional track car. Eventually I'll build something crazy, but for now I'm just looking for stability.

tinman 04-19-2014 01:00 AM

OP is going to have fun weld repairing those ceramic coated headers..........

90nSSMD 04-20-2014 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tinman (Post 8378002)
OP is going to have fun weld repairing those ceramic coated headers..........

Not at all. I have a spare set of BBK Shorty Stainless headers with a BBK O/R H-Pipe that will be going on the car ;).

Those ceramic headers were just included in with the purchase.

90nSSMD 05-03-2014 07:57 PM

Hey guys, been a little bit since I posted any progress. I'm going to use this thread for a "build" thread. Keep track of my progress with both my fox bodies, and of course, build that Notchback!

Took some vacation time off of work to get the shop cleaned up for the car to sit in while I start the project (along with some good old redneck weatherproofing :icon_goofygrin:.) I don't have room in my garage where I'm at, nor do I have access to the tools needed for certain jobs (engine pulling for one).

To say this was going to be an easy task.. hah.. oh man. The front of the shop had a small area to pull vehicles in to work. Pretty much every where else was a bit of a "storage" area, where eventually over time things just got thrown there with the idea of organizing.

When something is of low priority, you tend to ignore it.. Not anymore, and not today!

Due to the graphic nature of this/these picture(s), it is advised to NOT do this at home (well, nevermind.. if your shop looks like this, please DO this. You will feel better, trust me).

It all began with:

http://i62.tinypic.com/a07ip.jpg

Slowly over time it was getting cleaner:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2hqw8yu.jpg

Lots of beer runs and lots of pain later:

http://i58.tinypic.com/5khs7p.jpg

Oh.. and the following morning we decided we needed to handle the ground area (it being a dirt floor and all). So we took a tin roll from an old pool that wasn't rusted out, and decided to cut 17' strips. We laid it out 9' wide, and covered that with some black matting. The epitome of poor mans weatherproofing, but after a 3 day stint of rain, it amazingly did a great job.

http://i58.tinypic.com/6ydu6e.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/ofydf9.jpg

Pushed the car the rest of the way in, and measured from the wall to the full door extension. Came out with 42", and just added an extra 6" for good measure. End result, a saddled pony (with a 4 year old spectator making sure the car is ok ;).) Decided once she was in I was going to rip out the intake in the white one and try to chase down a serious starting/idling issue I've been having since I got this car. I've done almost everything EXCEPT tearing apart the intake to look at the lifter valley.

http://i57.tinypic.com/zsd1v.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/27y1j45.jpg

Started in slow with just taking off the CAI and inspecting the surrounding area around the TB. Thought to myself that I had to just rip everything apart so I started to it:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2ecllyb.jpg

Before this picture was taken, when I went to start removing the fuel rails, I inspected the injector harness around the #8 runner. It looked.. loose.. Upon further inspection (sticking my face to it basically), I noticed #8 cylinder was running without an injector.. oh how nice of the previous owner to do the intake and not plug it in.. :icon_slap2:. There's where my miss was coming from! Not to mention, the harness ground wire was well.. ripped off. Starting issue found? Maybe..

All was ok though, I had a spare harness laying around that I ended up using. Contact cleaned the 10 pins and used a liberal amount of Dielectric Grease.

Finishing touches:

http://i59.tinypic.com/3177cys.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/15d030g.jpg


After everything was plugged down, I started adding coolant to see if any leaks were present. Doh.. I forgot to plug the EGR coolant passage. Quick trip to the hardware store for a 3/8" NPT plug and I was good to go. Re-filled.. Oh no.. looks like its coming from the front of the intake this time.. Grabbed a move-able mirror, and saw the thermostat housing leaking. The thermostat had moved (despite being RTV'd) under the gasket, and caused a leak. Pulled that, let it cure for a little bit longer, and put it back after cleaning the surfaces. No more leaks yay! Changed the oil, and yelled fire in the hole. Car burst into life after the injectors primed, with an idle that sounded so mean.. Granted it was because the base timing needed to be set. Set the base timing to 14 degrees, and the car ran like a raped ape. Can't wait to drop this into the Notch while I build something bigger!

Idle Video (with a half-hearted yay because I was completely exhausted):
http://tinypic.com/r/2pr74n5/8


This was a pretty fun trip. First time I had ever done a full intake swap. I'm glad I did because I pretty much fixed every idle/drive-ability problem this engine ever had since I got it, within 2 days time.

Next visit is to start on the Notchback suspension! Stay tuned!

tinman 05-04-2014 01:41 AM

I like that shop building you have there.
I need one like it.
I built my car in half of a 2 car garage........

90nSSMD 05-04-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinman (Post 8384252)
I like that shop building you have there.
I need one like it.
I built my car in half of a 2 car garage........

I have a one and a half car garage where I currently live, which is just being used for storage. No possible chance to get anything in there to do any big work without some solid engineering and thinking, so I feel your pain!

I really had no choice but to nudge my uncle into helping me clean up an area so I can work there, in a closed area, instead of a driveway where I live lol.

Now that I lit a fire in his ass, he wants the whole shop cleaned to setup a machining and welding area. So that only means more male bonding time with lots of beer and lots of swearing :icon_drink:

88 orangepeel notch 05-05-2014 07:56 AM

Great pics, and update. Keep them coming, these are fun to follow.

90nSSMD 05-05-2014 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88 orangepeel notch (Post 8384623)
Great pics, and update. Keep them coming, these are fun to follow.

Thanks :). The first picture was sadly taken after about 4 hours of cleaning.. it looked much worse over there lol.

I've been trying to remember to take pictures to document everything for a build, but once I get momentum, it's hard to stop for a minute and take a picture. I guess that's the kid in me wanting to see the finished product before it's even started.

Parting some stuff out (hood, wheels, strange struts/shocks, etc) but I'm keeping certain things.

Trying to pay down some bills while building a project. Guy I'm selling the hood to has TW 170 heads that just came back from the machine shop, wants $800 for them. Very tempting...

JBeachstang11 05-14-2014 09:28 AM

Awesome. I'll be following your thread as well. Good deal on the intake/idle issues getting sorted. Injector, who woulda guessed:icon_rolleyes:

Yeah those heads would be seriously tempting!


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