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Old 06-15-2014, 09:30 PM   #1
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Well I pulled the trans due to the converter needing restalled and I wanted to check over the trans, due to having some prior issues and the was my first roller build I done. Well I found a large chunk of metal on the drain plug and the typical stuff. Now this trans had maybe 25 runs on it 1/4 and 800 street miles lots of that in town "tops" on all of this.
Clutchs looked great and the trans looked good inside so did the band. So there is still this chunk of metal so I put the input shaft in the converter and it maybe be hurt kind of makes a scrap sound and stops fast at time it is a roller in side. So when it goes back for a restall I will tell him to take a good look at it. got to love this stuff LOL good thing the convert has a good warranty on it.
We talked a good while back about it and we kind of had a shot in the dark stall on this thing due to the car never seeing a dyno and it being a small cid with a bigger then needed turbo on it. But this may be the reason it is blowing through the converter so bad. But I did have the best 60 ft ever with this converter. So I am happy with it if we can just get it a bit tighter up top.
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:38 PM   #2
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Gonna need a little back ground. Transmission, converter size and stall speed? And most importantly. What does it run on the turbo setup? Decent sixty with the big turbo?
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Old 06-16-2014, 05:41 AM   #3
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C4 trans. 4000 stall 10in converter. Been running 10.50s on 12 psi it has been faster in the past but it was running on high boost and a different converter. checked it was seeing 19% slippage. That is a lot If I wind up the boost I wounder what it would go to. Also 1.57 60 ft off the foot break no boost.
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so you pulled the tranny this past weekend John??
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:27 PM   #5
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Sure did had it out and torn down for inspect in 3 hrs. I think the converter broke a fin or something inside. That would be some of the reason it felt like it just seem to blow through the converter like it was. It really didnt seem as lose as it was getting when I first put it in I was thinking something was burnt but that all looked really good. good enough I am gone to reuse everything. But this large piece of metal was on the drain plug and it was not there when we took it the valve body out when the band adj. feel off so it had to come from the converter. Like I said everything else looked fine and when I put the input shaft in the converter a spun it you can hear a rubbing sound and sometimes it will just stop. It should not just stop it is a roller in side the converter other times it will just sit there and spin till runs out of force.
No big deal I dont think, it has to come apart for a restall anyway. hope my MPH comes back with the restall some. I am sure it will if we find the convert is hurt. it was showing 19% slippage which is a bunch and he even said that was way to much.
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^^^^^good luck, I'd like to be motivated to work on mine once again and try and push the envelope with it..lol, maybe when I get my new man cave up...only time will tell, as for now I'm just gonna watch everyone else break...lol
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Old 06-17-2014, 05:34 AM   #7
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just need to get it there do to the warranty running out LOL. when it is fixed I am sure it will just sit there again.But really I would like to run a few times this year
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Well I got a call yesterday about my converter it is broke, the turbine fins in it are bent and broke so that explains the feeling of it not pulling real hard up top and the MPH falling off so bad after the 1/8 mile. So they told me before if it was broke that it would be fixed for free so we will see. Gone to talk with him today and have them tighten it up up top so when I turn up the boost it will hold better also. I hate to give up any of the down low but looks like I may have to give up some. So far they have been top notch with all the dealings with them.
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Ok after talking with them again they are saying the converter fins are bent and they touched. He said I got a bad pump in the trans or it sucked air at some time the pump gears are almost new not buying this bad pump stuff and look perfect. the trans itself looks perfect inside. He also said this is not a warranty issue "here we go" "but in the next mouth full he said he would take care of it this time". So thats good. strange I never had issues with the other converter like this. But in all fairness it could have got air in the lines for a second like he said if the fluid got low but then again the fluid when I checked it was fine. Maybe the fluid moved away from the pick up for a second. he did put a better turbine in it to make it lock hard up top but told me it may leave softer so we will see. Good they took care of it but not real sure the conversation is being up and up with whats gone on. I still have not found where this small chunk of metal came from that looks like a fin he said that it was not from the converter but it is not from the trans thats what makes me think something is not so when we talk. But it will be fixed for free. All in all I am happy unless it was to happen again.
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also strange from the first post to the last I hit what was wrong with it LOL I have been doing this crap to long LOL.
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better get that thing fixed asap John!!! word on the street is you the slow man in town now.........been passed by others..lol
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I was hoping to hear some insight from you on this not just you better get it fixed. LOL By the way I am like number 2 with the guys I run with now and around number 6-8 with the area people. LOL Time to turn it up theres a new Cobra in town that they say runs 9.30s came out of FL. he went down and bought it. Also 5.0 Chad well his is now no longer running it is hurt in a BAD way. lost oil press. and didnt catch it soon enough now it is locked up. Can you say BIG MONEY fix. But he is buying killer parts for it. I priced him out some Ford Racing parts early this week. But the 9.30 Cobra is now the fastest street car around if it runs what they say and that is better then the Chevys on top LOL. I just keep messing with my old 5 year old combo while all them other guys are throwing cash at there stuff. LOL but I will be putting out a small amount for the seal kit for the trans and a new fuel pump. But nothing like them other guys. LOL plus I dont have it to spend LOL. poorboy racing here. I need a team player some one with money and do a tag team car. you in LOL??!!
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I was hoping to hear some insight from you on this not just you better get it fixed. LOL By the way I am like number 2 with the guys I run with now and around number 6-8 with the area people. LOL Time to turn it up theres a new Cobra in town that they say runs 9.30s came out of FL. he went down and bought it. Also 5.0 Chad well his is now no longer running it is hurt in a BAD way. lost oil press. and didnt catch it soon enough now it is locked up. Can you say BIG MONEY fix. But he is buying killer parts for it. I priced him out some Ford Racing parts early this week. But the 9.30 Cobra is now the fastest street car around if it runs what they say and that is better then the Chevys on top LOL. I just keep messing with my old 5 year old combo while all them other guys are throwing cash at there stuff. LOL but I will be putting out a small amount for the seal kit for the trans and a new fuel pump. But nothing like them other guys. LOL plus I dont have it to spend LOL. poorboy racing here. I need a team player some one with money and do a tag team car. you in LOL??!!
tag team back again....lol where we gonna get the car??? as far as input......I'm a 5spd guy..lol I have no clue where the chunk came from....a piece of casting?? or is it metal?? Also , heard about the cobra from Kevin about 2 weeks ago (that was the word on the street I was hinting about) ....at least you rank on a list......me?? not so, super poor boy racing here now with a third cookie cruncher But at least my ride is running, got the vert out today and here at work, gonna hit the cruise in later tonight, perfect vert weather, and that sucks about Chad's 5.0 but with all the mods and power he kept throwing at it, bound to have happened......what are his plans??
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definitely metal. not cast flash at all off anything I can see even the metal parts. Chad is looking at the Ford Racing Aluminator engine manley rods, forged pistons and 11 to 1 compress. the throwing the S/C back on but I keep hearing the word turbo pop up so who knows LOL. The cone zone is where I think we are gone tonight more hot rods then show cars over there.
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definitely metal. not cast flash at all off anything I can see even the metal parts. Chad is looking at the Ford Racing Aluminator engine manley rods, forged pistons and 11 to 1 compress. the throwing the S/C back on but I keep hearing the word turbo pop up so who knows LOL. The cone zone is where I think we are gone tonight more hot rods then show cars over there.
yeah I was at the cone zone for a while.......talked to your boy and a few others there......dang, it was a humbling experience to be there with hot rods vs trailer queen show cars..........made me feel like a chump with my little boy toy, seems like half the guys there had low 10 to 9 sec rides.......I drove away quietly and meekly, hoping no one would notice my poor little wanna be race car. Was talking to one of Kevin's friend, he had a fox with a 454 ls motor in it, started it up and man you knew it was something to be reckoned with.....all out race car with no saftey equipment...lol, who needs that stuff anyway )
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I came but got there late. Sorry I missed you. yep the place smells of money bad, way out of my league for sure. I just cant bring myself to spend the kind of $$$ they are on my car anymore LOL just cant do it nor do I have it LOL. the low 9s Cobra went to the track only ran low 10s thats a long way from the low 9s not that low 10s is slow but you know how the talk is out on the street. I missed the big CID Mustang also. it should be a monster for sure but you know how I feel about LS engines in a Ford. To each there own they didnt do anything they couldn't do with a Big CID Windsor engine. Crazy stuff down there for sure they are gone to meet up again on Friday night. I am gone to try and get there sooner. I will just have to eat dinner later.
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I came but got there late. Sorry I missed you. yep the place smells of money bad, way out of my league for sure. I just cant bring myself to spend the kind of $$$ they are on my car anymore LOL just cant do it nor do I have it LOL. the low 9s Cobra went to the track only ran low 10s thats a long way from the low 9s not that low 10s is slow but you know how the talk is out on the street. I missed the big CID Mustang also. it should be a monster for sure but you know how I feel about LS engines in a Ford. To each there own they didnt do anything they couldn't do with a Big CID Windsor engine. Crazy stuff down there for sure they are gone to meet up again on Friday night. I am gone to try and get there sooner. I will just have to eat dinner later.
yeah , I couldn't stay to long, had to be up early to be at home for the delivery of my 953 loader I rented to knock trees down and dig the hole for the man cave!!!! It's finally gonna happen!!!!
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Man cave cool good to hear things are moving along
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