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Old 07-31-2014, 01:24 AM   #1
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How can I confirm a late 80's car was an original GT car? Want to make sure they didn't slap on the GT package.

Did Ford stamp the engine block with the VIN? If they did, where can I find this to make sure it is the original block?

Did the GTs come with a sun roof stock? I will pass on the car if a hole has been chopped in the roof.

Lastly, how can I confirm the trans is original (T5)?


Tried to buy one of these years ago, but couldn't afford it. Now is different! I think I may have found my GT!!

Appreciate any help/advice.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:44 AM   #2
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Silly question but late 80s GTs are never gonna be a collector car so why the concern with it being an original GT? I'd be more concerned with it just being a solid, working car! Here's a link to the Mustang GT registry. This should help with Vin. and door tag information. This should provide you with some info but as far as the sunroof I don't think there is any way of knowing it's original without a build sheet. Ford did offer factory stock sunroofs in foxbodies. I'm sure a quick google image search should have pictures of the factory sunroof. The T5 transmission will have a generic part number on it but I don't think it'll have a specific number to a certain car it was originally installed in. The door tag should have a number 2 on it for a stick shift car.

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Old 07-31-2014, 02:03 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply and the info!

I am a stickler about original and know very little about the Mustangs and just want to make sure of what I am getting. If it is molested I do not want the car, of course. Seller could almost tell me anything and I wouldn't know any better. The GT sticks are getting hard to find it seems. I nearly bought a black car like this in my late teens, but just couldn't afford it at the time. This car would be great if it is what I am hoping.

Waiting on the VIN now to see what that reveals.
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:15 AM   #4
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Where is that GT registry you mentioned?
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Old 07-31-2014, 06:50 AM   #6
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gt stick cars are not rare nor hard to find....maybe where you are but they are nothing special and not worth much ........
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:49 AM   #7
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Hello, love me some 4 eyed mustang. I owned a 85 coupe for a bit. The block is stamped and the number can typically be found under the starter. You are probably going to have to remove the starter, I know I did on mine.

The build sheet of the car should be under the carpet, typically they are under the drivers seat or in the hatch area under the carpet as well. If this is a vehicle you are looking at buying you might have to talk the owner into letting you pull the seat to remove the carpet. Even then there is still no gurentee it will be there.

Another thing for you to do is pull the bucktag. It typically will be behind the driver headlamp and IIRC will be screwed in. The information should be stamped on that tag with options the car came with.

Here's a pic for refrence on the buck tag:
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Good luck and let us know what you find out!
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:59 AM   #8
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gt stick cars are not rare nor hard to find....maybe where you are but they are nothing special and not worth much ........
Thanks for correcting me on this rarity factor. I usually-not always-run into an AT when I find one of these, but I know next to nothing about these cars and is why I am here. Seriously, thanks guys I thought it was a bit more rare...my bad.

I see the gauge cluster has been removed for aftermarket gauges. Wondering if the dash was cut out to make room for the gauges...? I know the guy will say no if I ask this.

VIN does show the E motor and GT. It looks to be in decent condition. Outside it has a broken tail light lens, poor paint and without any major damage to the body panels. Original wheels. Trans. is popping out of second, but runs great otherwise. Cannnot comment on interior or engine bay.

Thanks again guys I do appreciate the feedback.
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I totally dig the GTs. They were so fast. I was chewed up every time in my 86 TA (5.0) back in the day.
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Hello, love me some 4 eyed mustang. I owned a 85 coupe for a bit. The block is stamped and the number can typically be found under the starter. You are probably going to have to remove the starter, I know I did on mine.

The build sheet of the car should be under the carpet, typically they are under the drivers seat or in the hatch area under the carpet as well. If this is a vehicle you are looking at buying you might have to talk the owner into letting you pull the seat to remove the carpet. Even then there is still no gurentee it will be there.

Another thing for you to do is pull the bucktag. It typically will be behind the driver headlamp and IIRC will be screwed in. The information should be stamped on that tag with options the car came with.

Here's a pic for refrence on the buck tag:
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Good luck and let us know what you find out!
Hope that helps.
I totally dig the GTs of this vintage. They were so fast. I was chewed up every time in my 86 TA (5.0) back in the day.

Thanks for info!

Waiting for more pics of interior and engine bay now.
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Some of the guys I run with and myself also always say it is just another fox body mustang LOL yes we like them but it is the truth they made millions of them and they are never gone to be worth the likes of a old Cobra Jet Mustang or something like that. The 93 Cobras will be worth something and the 93 Cobra Rs are worth a good bit already but as for the rest it is what it is. Just buy it and have fun with it thats what it is really about anyway.
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A Stock foxbody GT is actually slower than the Stock foxbody LX version....the GT added a body kit and a few other trinkets for show that added a weight. The difference is nominal but since you want details...there ya go.
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Some of the guys I run with and myself also always say it is just another fox body mustang LOL yes we like them but it is the truth they made millions of them and they are never gone to be worth the likes of a old Cobra Jet Mustang or something like that. The 93 Cobras will be worth something and the 93 Cobra Rs are worth a good bit already but as for the rest it is what it is. Just buy it and have fun with it thats what it is really about anyway.
They might not bring the kind of money that Cobra Jet's will, but good examples have increased in price for what the buyers are willing to pay. Other foxbodies that have jumped in value other than the Cobra R's and 93 Cobras are the Pace cars and SSP's. You might be shocked how much good examples of 79-86 mustangs are brining now. Even though they made millions of foxbody's we are now starting to see a shift in the collector car market.

We have this discussion over on the Vette forum all the time. There are guys out there who are hell bent in keeping everything in pristine shape and keeping the miles off. While other guys want to enjoy the miles of smiles their C5 gives them. While I can understand both arguements, I can only walk by my C5Z06 so much before temptation takes over and I need to go rip some gears.
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They might not bring the kind of money that Cobra Jet's will, but good examples have increased in price for what the buyers are willing to pay. Other foxbodies that have jumped in value other than the Cobra R's and 93 Cobras are the Pace cars and SSP's. You might be shocked how much good examples of 79-86 mustangs are brining now. Even though they made millions of foxbody's we are now starting to see a shift in the collector car market.

We have this discussion over on the Vette forum all the time. There are guys out there who are hell bent in keeping everything in pristine shape and keeping the miles off. While other guys want to enjoy the miles of smiles their C5 gives them. While I can understand both arguements, I can only walk by my C5Z06 so much before temptation takes over and I need to go rip some gears.
I understand what they are worth I own a couple of them more race/street cars then stock and what they can bring. You are right I did forget about the SSP cars and the Pace Cars. I also owned a SSP along with a real nice 82 GT car years ago and a 70 Mach 1 also sold and now have a Bastard 99 Cobra car also. I have owned like 15 or so Fox cars over the years. As we know asking price and selling can be far away from each other. It is only relative to what people will pay. I have seen prime low miles Fox cars selling for 20+K but IMO is way to much. I would never pay that for one in anyway, again my opinion other then a high power car. They will never be your Z06 or the old Cobra Jet cars. and not that 20k is a bad price. just not a good investment, if you think it was gone to go up much from there I think but I have been wrong before. Unlike the z06 that are gone to bring money. just like before "It is just another Fox body Mustang" LOL
Most market shift is due to age, just like old stock Model A/Ts use to bring big money that Era is dead and gone and you can pick up a nice car much cheaper then before
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That car the O.P. is posting about is 25+ years old. It's an old car. Don't worry about the originality of it worry about if it is complete and structurally sound.
From the way he posts he sounds like the guy who will make the low ball offer anyway.......
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