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Old 11-23-2010, 02:16 PM   #21
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I put 4oz of zmax in mine and drove around for 20 to 30 mins now its not a problem.seal9
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:19 PM   #22
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Interesting! Let us know in a week or 2 from now if it's still working. I'm a little sceptical.
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Old 11-24-2010, 11:03 AM   #23
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When i replaced my stock shifter in my 2010 gt with an MGW all that rough shifting went away...
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Old 11-27-2010, 07:54 AM   #24
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i have problems going into third gear at wot do anyone have the same problem
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:09 AM   #25
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how do the skip shift works and whats the purpose
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Old 11-27-2010, 11:10 AM   #26
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how do the skip shift works and whats the purpose
Skip S*** is a lame-*** attempt to increase CAFE of a car company. It is rather useless since most people either buy a resistor or whatever to trick the skip S*** mechanism to think it is activated.

The way skip S*** works is it is a solenoid driven mechanism that is in the 2mnd & 3rd gear rings or mounted on the shifting forks. I think the solenoid activates electro-magnets that give a pronounced forced feed back so you feel the resistance as you try to throw the stick into 2nd or 3rd.
This is only my guess on what the skip S*** mechanism is. I have no idea what the mechanism actually is.

For me, it does not do me worth a damn in fuel economy. Jumping into 4th gear at 20MPH only makes my engine just about nearly knock from being forced to run under such a hard load at such low RPMs.

I believe I overcame my skip S*** feature by using the car's learning feature. When I felt hard resistance from skip S*** attempting to lock me out of 2nd and 3rd when the message board flashed it, I just forced the stick hard into 2nd and 3rd. Eventually, the car computer learned not to give the forced resistance and now it lets me go into 2nd and 3rd even if the skip shift message lights up. I not just ignore the message.

Even without skip S***, our Coyotes do not fall into gas guzzler tax. So Ford's reasoning that skip S*** is required to keep it out of gas guzzler is a false reasoning.
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:57 PM   #27
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Ok folks. I'm in San Jose CA (not exactly the coldest place on earth). I'm on my second flywheel and clutch (car has 1500 on the clock). Light grinding and notchiness when the fluid is cold... That's one thing. When it's warmed up? This tranny should shift easily in all gears. Mine did when new... It's why I bought the car. I'd advise you to head over to the allfordmustangs forum where ford reps are asking people with this and clutch issues to PM them directly. I did on Wednesday. 2 hours later, a Ford Rep called me directly and admitted this is NOT NORMAL and scheduled an appointment at my dealer AND arranged for a loaner car until it has been resolved. It goes in 8am Monday. The issue is clearly with the sychros... Which can be damaged if the clutch isn't fully disengaging... Which can happen if you have either a bad clutch slave (sound familiar?) or pressure plate bolts that are not fully seated (sound familiar?).

Read this... If you're having the shifting issues or clutch issues, I'd advise you to contact the Ford rep at this forum and bring it in:

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ng-thread.html

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Old 11-29-2010, 02:14 AM   #28
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Thanks for the info jmatero. You don't happen to have an email address handy for the people familiar with the problem do you? I'll register over there if I gots to, but I gots too many passwords already.

Took mine in this weekend, and they couldn't replicate the problem. Car got warmed up on the drive over I spose.
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:10 PM   #29
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Don't have an email, but if you register there, you can send a personal message to Deysha... her account name is FordCustSrvc. She'll PM you back and you'll receive a call directly from a Ford Customer Service rep who will schedule an appt, record the issue, and arrange for a loaner car for this issue.
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:10 PM   #30
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I Pm'ed her last night and today received a call. Unfortunately, my car will be unavailable for them to look at till spring. She noted all this with my VIN in their system so when I do take it in the service guys will see it. The lady I talked to said she would personally authorize a loaner for me if the dealership gave me any grief about that.
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:01 AM   #31
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I never buy first year cars due to the problems that I hear and read about but due to the accident that I had I went and ordered the 5.0. Reading up on the shifting and tranny issues has got me a bit worried though. Is this a cause for concern? This will be my first manual car.
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:20 PM   #32
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FWIW, my 5.0 shifts without issue, granted I have less than 200 miles on it but I did start out the other day in mid-twenties temp with zero problem getting into 2nd.
granted it dosen't shift like a Homda S2000 but then I don't know anything that does shift that smooth !
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Old 12-01-2010, 04:14 PM   #33
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I'm just shy of 9K with no issues at all.My car was built 5/10 and I drive it hard and to be honest the 6spd Manual has been flawless so far under all conditions.

I have adapted to all the little quirks of this tranny like the notchy 1-2 shift when cold.If you kind of guide the shifter into the gates when cold it will shift smooth.

after warmed up a bit I can row through the gears like a champ and rev match on down shifts.I hate to see so many others having problems with either clutch or transmission in general.
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:04 PM   #34
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Well, they had my car 3 days and had extensive discussions with Ford. Ford advised them to add a friction modifier to the transmission fluid. They called this afternoon and told me the car was fixed and that the improvement in shift quality was night and day. Of course, I was skeptical. Well, I just picked it up and I'm thrilled to say the least. The car will go into ANY gear easily at any speed. I can actually shift the car with my pinky. There is absolutely NO grinding AT ALL and shifts are crisp and quick now: click-click-click-click. It even feels different with the motor off. Moving the lever is effortless and as opposed to multiple clunks as you move the lever into gear, you simply feel and hear one CLICK.

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Old 12-02-2010, 09:27 AM   #35
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I think the zmax did the same thing, mine is still shifting great... Seal9
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:36 PM   #36
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Good to hear your car tranny problems have been fixed. Well, at least for now. If it returns, do keep us updated.

For the tranny fluid friction modifier, should I do the same on mine? Or is it only specific for your MT82?
If it needs to be added in all MT82 trannies, what is this friction modifier called? Or what brands would be best for the MT82?
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It was "Ford Friction Modifier"
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:55 PM   #38
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Alright i was experiencing a Rough shift/grind in cold 40 degree or less weather from 1st to second and generally not happy with the shifting after it got warm. Just felt wrong and sometimes hard to put into gear after it had already warmed up. So Ive gone to the dealership once and they couldn't find anything wrong. i told them about the countless threads and friends of mine having the same issues and they seemed unaware and how some of yall have changed the fluids which ford Didn't recommend. Any how after reading this thread http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...2-victoms.html i decided id put in new fluid. maby this guy was on to something. as where a few on this forum. so they reluctantly took out the old fluid. befor they put in the new factory fluid i was told that the ford techs did not feel comfortable putting this and i quote S*** back in my car and recommended http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-12345349/. he also said its cheaper then the factory fluid. He later stated that it looked like i had automatic fluid in my trans and that all the other techs agreed that the factory fluid is possibly too thin for this transmission and may be the problem. Needless to say...My trans is back to day one. the difference was night and day. Im not holding my breath but it seems fixed. tomorrow's cold weather will be the next milestone. My car has 8200 miles and the issues started at around 5000 miles. only time will tell.

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And yes a ford dealership put a GM product in my car.
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Alright i was experiencing a Rough shift/grind in cold 40 degree or less weather from 1st to second and generally not happy with the shifting after it got warm. Just felt wrong and sometimes hard to put into gear after it had already warmed up. So Ive gone to the dealership once and they couldn't find anything wrong. i told them about the countless threads and friends of mine having the same issues and they seemed unaware and how some of yall have changed the fluids which ford Didn't recommend. Any how after reading this thread http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...2-victoms.html i decided id put in new fluid. maby this guy was on to something. as where a few on this forum. so they reluctantly took out the old fluid. befor they put in the new factory fluid i was told that the ford techs did not feel comfortable putting this and i quote S*** back in my car and recommended http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-12345349/. he also said its cheaper then the factory fluid. He later stated that it looked like i had automatic fluid in my trans and that all the other techs agreed that the factory fluid is possibly too thin for this transmission and may be the problem. Needless to say...My trans is back to day one. the difference was night and day. Im not holding my breath but it seems fixed. tomorrow's cold weather will be the next milestone. My car has 8200 miles and the issues started at around 5000 miles. only time will tell.
I was waiting for someone to try the Syncromesh. I suggested it on one of the other forums and I wasn't sure if anyone listened.

I have had an issue with several manuals I have owned (every car I have owned has been a manual). My '91 and '93 Escort GT's both got syncromesh fluid in their 5-speeds (The 2nd Gen Escort GT's ('91-'96) had Mazda engines and transmissions). A strong breeze would have been able to shift them between gears after the fluid swap. I did it after someone suggested syncromesh and I was amazed at the awesomeness. Ford said it should run ATF, after that I said syncromesh.

One of the other ones was my 2007 Mazdaspeed3. Shifting issues. Fluid was one of the three solutions to my problem. Redline MTL was the answer that time. Worked fantastic.

My Mustang is sleeping until winter is over and I had hoped that someone would figure out the tranny by spring.
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