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jimj3125 05-15-2011 06:48 PM

Ghost cam idle tune?
 
Anyone know what's going on with the Ghost cam idle tune from sct?:-)

parchisi 05-15-2011 10:39 PM

If you go back a page or two, you can find two threads all about it. Long story short, makes your idle sound badass, no harm done to your engine or performance, but the "riceness" is up for debate.

Mishri 05-16-2011 12:13 PM

yep, a few vendors now have it. Bama and Jon Lund both have it for sure. I am in the camp of people that thinks it sounds cool, but it's a poser/ricer type of thing to do. and alot of people hearing it would think it sounds like your engine isn't running right... You might not believe the number of people who hear that cam sound and say, 'oh whats wrong with that car? it's engine must be junk'. especially girls.. the equate it with a old junker.

hawkeye18 05-16-2011 03:38 PM

Bama said they had it, or would have it, but so far have not delivered. Something about missing tables from SCT or something like that. They have been mum on the issue, and I'm pretty sure they are hoping people just forget about it.

Derf00 05-16-2011 03:48 PM

Yeah I kept my mouth shut on the original post from American Muscle about it. I like them a lot and respect what they've been able to do with our cars but IMO why make the car sound like something it doesn't have? That's just rice/poser/whatever.

Either you have cams, or you don't. If you don't and you sound like, you're going to look like tool when a slomaro with a cam pulls up next to you and squashes you.

parchisi 05-16-2011 07:56 PM

For all the headaches people put themselves through to get the exact right combination of header, midpipe, and axleback to get just the right sound, when somebody uses the tune to change the sound, suddenly its cheating and its rice. Makes no sense to me. And don't tell me people do exhaust for the performance.....that's bull 95% of the time. Ford tuned the exhaust of the Bullitt editions to sound like the car from the movie. So if somebody in a Bullitt mustang is sitting at a stoplight and the real movie car with a 390 pulls up beside it, should that guy in the Bullitt hang his head in shame for having a phony pony?

I didn't want to have this arguement again, but ya'all started it! :)

parchisi 05-16-2011 08:04 PM

And for the record, I think calling a car rice, poser, what have you, is crap. No matter what soembody did to their car, they did it with pride according to what they want and what they like. Its your right to dislike it, but you don't have to resort to name calling and belittling.

jimj3125 05-17-2011 10:08 AM

What is meant by poser/ricer?

Mishri 05-17-2011 11:56 AM

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ricer

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poser

seems to fit.. and yeah, axle back exhaust is sort of ricer, except atleast it isn't that horrible sounding fart can noise.

Jiggy_One 05-17-2011 09:25 PM

I'd rather buy one of these tuners with the ghost cam, then spend $2000 on the real thing for just the sound. That sounds dumb to me. Also, for the record, getting big cams and big gains can also be had WITHOUT huge overlap causing that awesome idle. So would you be a poser that way?>

hawkeye18 05-18-2011 09:24 AM

What a lot of you don't understand is that the cams do overlap quite a large amount up high - the factory tune actually tunes the overlap out at lower RPMs. The "cammer" tune simply keeps the overlap at idle. So when you say "It makes you sound like you have overlapping cams when you don't," you're actually full of crap because it's had overlapping cams all along.

sugarprobe 05-19-2011 01:08 AM

So the cam tune is Rice but fake break cooling side scoops & stick on louvers are not?

ShaneM 05-19-2011 08:09 AM

The boss 302 track key adds the cammed sound. My understanding is on the 5.0 the tune is the only way to get the sound since intake and exhaust cams are separate. As for the tunes I have a friend that had all sorts of trouble with the Lund cammed tune and ended up just not using it.

I was also told by a tuner that there is some legal wrangling going on w cammed tunes bc ford was mad that tuners unlocked that feature. Not sure how accurate that is but it would explain a bit why the boss track key is late other than carb.

sugarprobe 05-19-2011 08:39 AM

I can tell ya the LUND tune rocks. Drivability is perfect and sounds wicked.

hawkeye18 05-19-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaneM (Post 7550827)
The boss 302 track key adds the cammed sound. My understanding is on the 5.0 the tune is the only way to get the sound since intake and exhaust cams are separate. As for the tunes I have a friend that had all sorts of trouble with the Lund cammed tune and ended up just not using it.

I was also told by a tuner that there is some legal wrangling going on w cammed tunes bc ford was mad that tuners unlocked that feature. Not sure how accurate that is but it would explain a bit why the boss track key is late other than carb.

Ford is mad that tuners unlocked the cam lope? Seriously? That's like being mad at your kid for getting into the chocolate cake that you left open and unattended on the kitchen counter. You should've seen that coming.

Thrashard340 05-19-2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarprobe (Post 7550681)
So the cam tune is Rice but fake break cooling side scoops & stick on louvers are not?

He makes a good point here...

2c5s 05-19-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Derf00 (Post 7547233)

Either you have cams, or you don't. If you don't and you sound like, you're going to look like tool when a slomaro with a cam pulls up next to you and squashes you.


Is it really a slomaro if it squashes you?

JIM5.0 05-19-2011 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarprobe (Post 7550681)
So the cam tune is Rice but fake break cooling side scoops & stick on louvers are not?

To me, personally, yes, non-functional side scoops and hood scoops are poser.
If I were to put on side scoops, I would also take my car to a body shop, saber-saw a holes into the quarter panels, mod the scoops and install them to actually work, and then I would route brake ducts to the rear brakes to cool the rotors.

But are the faux scoops ricey as in distasteful? No, they are not, in most cases. I have seen many faux scoops and they actually make the car look nice.

JIM5.0 05-19-2011 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkeye18 (Post 7551399)
Ford is mad that tuners unlocked the cam lope? Seriously? That's like being mad at your kid for getting into the chocolate cake that you left open and unattended on the kitchen counter. You should've seen that coming.

Yep. I agree here too. If there were already a lope tune in the stock tuning tables, Ford should only slap themselves for not securing it by not even installing it into a Boss.

If they wanted to secure this tune feature, they should have left the second ECU completely blank (no tune at all) and when they TracKey tune becomes available for general public consumption, they should only then install the tune with the lope into the second ECU.

sugarprobe 05-19-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrashard340 (Post 7551547)
He makes a good point here...

And lets not forget hood scoops. Now that being said, I do not find those rice. I think they look good on the mustang. I will have the Supersnake 1/4 window scoops soon along with shelby spoiler and just did the side scoops. Having the super snake front end looks mean but leaves the back looking a lil wimpy so... Anyways I say do what you like and if you don't like it keep your thoughts to yourself. I love the lund tune and being that the cams overlap and advance for performance I say the car is cammed from factory. Ford has just tuned out the overlap at idle cause little suzy secretary probably wouldn't like it. Last thought is if the cam tune is rice then I guess when ford made the BOSS 302 someone didn't give them the memo...


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