5.0 longevity on boost?
#1
5.0 longevity on boost?
Whats the longevity of the stock motor with 10 psi with say, an Edelbrock or a Roush 2300?
Reason I ask is, I eventually plan on going forged with my 4.6 but can't help but wonder how long the new 5.0's last with a blower.
Reason I ask is, I eventually plan on going forged with my 4.6 but can't help but wonder how long the new 5.0's last with a blower.
#2
On the stock bottom end I don't think it's a good idea, not to mention I'm not sure how well the MT82 would hold up for us manual guys. I did see the Vortech for the 5.0 looks like a nice kit that makes 600 crank hp at 7 psi, I don't plan on boosting but if I do that's probably what I would go with so I wouldn't have to get rid of my Boss manifold.
#4
Forging a paid for 4.6 will get you 10s for less $$ than buying a whole new car and a blower kit. If resale value on the 4.6 was still good it might be a little more debatable however they are pretty much worthless at this point as far as that goes.
Keep in mind that the 5.0 has only been around for a bit over a year or so now. "Longevity" in this case is open to debate.
Keep in mind that the 5.0 has only been around for a bit over a year or so now. "Longevity" in this case is open to debate.
#5
Ford Racing makes a 525 hp kit with a 1 year warranty (if Ford installs). Its a little on the pricey side though.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=12409
Given they'll warranty, it suggests to me that the stock bottom end will hold up fine at those power levels. They don't warranty their 624 hp kit.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=12409
Given they'll warranty, it suggests to me that the stock bottom end will hold up fine at those power levels. They don't warranty their 624 hp kit.
#6
The 5.0 shortblock seems to be pretty stout. Given a good tune the engine should last at least as well as any non-forged 4.6 with a blower on it, while providing a lot more power. Of course the pistons and rods will be the weak points. As for the tranny, the MT82 has been holding up to quite a bit of abuse in some applications, but the problems seem to be more of an issue with a number of defective units rather than a weak overall design.
#7
In comparison, what's a 5.0's whp bump up to with minor bolt ons?
CAI, tune, shorty headers, B302 intake manifold, cams and TB??
Still about 430whp I bet.. thats what I make heat soaked and only gets worse lol
CAI, tune, shorty headers, B302 intake manifold, cams and TB??
Still about 430whp I bet.. thats what I make heat soaked and only gets worse lol
#8
Forging a paid for 4.6 will get you 10s for less $$ than buying a whole new car and a blower kit. If resale value on the 4.6 was still good it might be a little more debatable however they are pretty much worthless at this point as far as that goes.
Keep in mind that the 5.0 has only been around for a bit over a year or so now. "Longevity" in this case is open to debate.
Keep in mind that the 5.0 has only been around for a bit over a year or so now. "Longevity" in this case is open to debate.
I am starting to lean more towards "easy, reliable hp" than fully built.. but then again, I change my mind a lot!
#9
Going fully rebuilt true forged will up reliability under double digit boosts. But it is all relativebecause guys with all true forged short blocks have blown them up too. And I am talking some stout pushrod big blocks. Over boost any engine and it will see a significant drop in reliability.
But for teens psi boost, maybe even twenties psi boost, i wiuld say all true forged will be decently reliable.
But for teens psi boost, maybe even twenties psi boost, i wiuld say all true forged will be decently reliable.
#10
Ford Racing makes a 525 hp kit with a 1 year warranty (if Ford installs). Its a little on the pricey side though.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=12409
Given they'll warranty, it suggests to me that the stock bottom end will hold up fine at those power levels. They don't warranty their 624 hp kit.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=12409
Given they'll warranty, it suggests to me that the stock bottom end will hold up fine at those power levels. They don't warranty their 624 hp kit.
Edelbrock is the same. But they are able to get a lot of power on only 4psi manifold because of design. I believe the runner lengths have the right harmonics such that the pulse pressure waves of the intake valves opening and closing actually assist in "scavaging" the plenum of all air given a couple crank rotations such that only 4psi is neede to pull out more power