Another #8 Cylinder Issue?? Need HELP
08-08-2012, 08:38 AM
#151
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 14
I've talked to a local mechanic who believes the problem comes from a combination of a few things. The tune/CAI obviously increases air flow into the engine. He stated that when people engine brake (or down shift regularly) the engine will also pull more air. I'm sure most people have heard that oil gets pulled into the intake due to the PCV (PCV is designed to relieve gases from the crankcase). But, with so much air being pulled from the two conditions, more oil is pulled though the PCV and ultimately creating the piston to fail. He is an avid tuner in the community and states he hasn't had this issue since installing a different PCV...part # EV279. I'm hoping extremely experienced mechanics could chime in on their thoughts.
I ultimately purchased a PCV oil catch can. I don't think I will put the Steeda/tune back on the car...makes me nervous as hell. I'm new to the forums out there...but wanted to let everybody know my experience with Bama/AM and see what people thought of this mechanic's 'words of wisdom.'
Take care,
Tony
I ultimately purchased a PCV oil catch can. I don't think I will put the Steeda/tune back on the car...makes me nervous as hell. I'm new to the forums out there...but wanted to let everybody know my experience with Bama/AM and see what people thought of this mechanic's 'words of wisdom.'
Take care,
Tony
There is also an interesting thread on the svtperformance forums with one of the tuners explaining how there is some malicious programming in the stock tune where if the tuner is unaware it will hurt your motor.
08-08-2012, 08:42 PM
#152
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: New York
Posts: 7
yea they replaced the motor and honored the warranty, thats freakin awesome! (i love AM/BAMA BTW I used there tune on my 06 gt I had) however can you have them make you another tune and if the issue happens again will they replace the motor the 2nd time? If not then whats the point? your going to waste 600.00 for a intake tune package just to have a faster car until d-day comes then you get a new motor and are unable to reuse the intake and you cannot retune your car. so its basically a waste of $600.00 am I right?
08-09-2012, 10:18 AM
#153
Mish-ogynist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 3,780
Unfortunately, you are correct. I cannot claim a second warranty and am sitting on an almost brand new tuner/CAI. I plan to call into AM/Bama and find out if I decide to buy another tuner/CAI package...would I then rate another warranty. They open in a couple hours and I will report back with what I find out.
On a side note...the $8000 check did not cover the $9000 repair. But, I got to keep the damaged engine and ended up selling it on eBay for $1500. So, I ultimately came out on top with $500 and a new engine.
On a side note...the $8000 check did not cover the $9000 repair. But, I got to keep the damaged engine and ended up selling it on eBay for $1500. So, I ultimately came out on top with $500 and a new engine.
I don't have the knowledge/patience/tools right now for that though, but is an intriguing idea...
08-10-2012, 09:22 AM
#154
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: New York
Posts: 7
Same here...I have about 15 seconds a day to myself, so I knew the engine would ultimately end up sitting in my garage. So, I threw it up on eBay and got $1500 for it. A new engine from AM is $6300...so, not a bad chunk of change to make up for my loss.
08-11-2012, 06:20 AM
#155
1st Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 115
08-18-2012, 08:02 AM
#157
3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 786
It basically comes down to whether the performance gains you are adding justifies parting with the warranty.
Luckily we have the Magnason Moss act to back us for warranty claims, such that dealers have to be able to prove aftermarket parts are the cause of the damage.
It comes down to personal preference of the owner. Is it worth it or not?
For me? I'm going to mod until I go broke.
You never finish modding until you sell the car.
08-18-2012, 08:37 AM
#160
You'll be throwing codes from the rear O2 sensors and the front ones won't be calibrated for the lower temperature. It will be close and the car will run, but no guarantee on how well or how long.
Question about the #8 failure....what exactly happens when it fails? I know its detonation/knocking but does the car just quit? Every warning light on the dash go off and "limp" mode activates? Massive cloud of smoke? Just curious. I've seen pictures of the burned pistons and one with a collapsed piston/ring but I want to know a description of what you unfortunately experienced.
Question about the #8 failure....what exactly happens when it fails? I know its detonation/knocking but does the car just quit? Every warning light on the dash go off and "limp" mode activates? Massive cloud of smoke? Just curious. I've seen pictures of the burned pistons and one with a collapsed piston/ring but I want to know a description of what you unfortunately experienced.