Boss 302 Radiator and oil cooler
07-12-2012, 03:16 PM
#11
Mish-ogynist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Helena, MT
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they use 5w-20 for the cafe standards, better fuel economy. oil has been debated 100's of times on these forums, read up a bit on bobistheoilguy.com if you want to learn some stuffs...
as far as the automatic, you must not be a drag racer.
as far as the automatic, you must not be a drag racer.
07-12-2012, 04:53 PM
#12
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7
I read most of the site. First thing I noticed was aftermarket oil companies sponsoring it not manaufacutres. I don't go off forums or websites. I go on facts. Go to your local Ford dealer and talk to them. I know some industry insiders at Valvoline that confirm the same thing I am saying and will admit using higher weight oils is a marketing campaign to sell more oil. I can give you phone numbers to them if you want. I worked in the oil industry for years.
However keep using 20w-50 in your motor and don't cool the oil. Keep doing what your doing. Just don't tell people don't do things because you did not do serious homework or just don't have it on your car and tell others they are full of it.
Unless your "drag racer" is breaking 10's well lets get real it ain't a drag racer....
Best of luck to you Buddy!
However keep using 20w-50 in your motor and don't cool the oil. Keep doing what your doing. Just don't tell people don't do things because you did not do serious homework or just don't have it on your car and tell others they are full of it.
Unless your "drag racer" is breaking 10's well lets get real it ain't a drag racer....
Best of luck to you Buddy!
07-12-2012, 09:29 PM
#13
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Elgin, OK
Posts: 297
I read most of the site. First thing I noticed was aftermarket oil companies sponsoring it not manaufacutres. I don't go off forums or websites. I go on facts. Go to your local Ford dealer and talk to them. I know some industry insiders at Valvoline that confirm the same thing I am saying and will admit using higher weight oils is a marketing campaign to sell more oil. I can give you phone numbers to them if you want. I worked in the oil industry for years.
However keep using 20w-50 in your motor and don't cool the oil. Keep doing what your doing. Just don't tell people don't do things because you did not do serious homework or just don't have it on your car and tell others they are full of it.
Unless your "drag racer" is breaking 10's well lets get real it ain't a drag racer....
Best of luck to you Buddy!
However keep using 20w-50 in your motor and don't cool the oil. Keep doing what your doing. Just don't tell people don't do things because you did not do serious homework or just don't have it on your car and tell others they are full of it.
Unless your "drag racer" is breaking 10's well lets get real it ain't a drag racer....
Best of luck to you Buddy!
07-12-2012, 10:49 PM
#14
1st Gear Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: TN
Posts: 131
Mishiri,
Before you go and get yourself upset please do more research. You can't run 20w-50 or 10w30 in these motors. The clearance is to small in some spots and if you run heavier weights these areas they get inadequate oil supply contributing to increased heat and wear. Talk to ford they will confirm the reason for using 5w-20. Do the research buddy before you get disrespectful with me.
Before you go and get yourself upset please do more research. You can't run 20w-50 or 10w30 in these motors. The clearance is to small in some spots and if you run heavier weights these areas they get inadequate oil supply contributing to increased heat and wear. Talk to ford they will confirm the reason for using 5w-20. Do the research buddy before you get disrespectful with me.
There are even some engines that now recommend 5W20 that used to recommend 5W30, and the engine design has not changed at all!
07-13-2012, 04:00 PM
#16
3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 558
Mishiri,
Before you go and get yourself upset please do more research. You can't run 20w-50 or 10w30 in these motors. The clearance is to small in some spots and if you run heavier weights these areas they get inadequate oil supply contributing to increased heat and wear. Talk to ford they will confirm the reason for using 5w-20.
Before you go and get yourself upset please do more research. You can't run 20w-50 or 10w30 in these motors. The clearance is to small in some spots and if you run heavier weights these areas they get inadequate oil supply contributing to increased heat and wear. Talk to ford they will confirm the reason for using 5w-20.
07-13-2012, 04:33 PM
#17
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7
Guys,
5W-50 has the same properties (thinness) as 5W-20. It just tolerates heat better that's all. 10W-30 and 20W-50 are thicker at atmosphere and engine operating temperatures.
Please if you don't believe me call a corporate office of any oil maker and ask.
Scottmatch if you would have read the earlier post you would know that this whole thing started over Mishri stating "the Boss Radiator and oil cooler added to a GT 5.0L is a waste of time and money". Which by the way is in your track pack. You took the side of the guy dissing your ride! LOL!
5W-50 has the same properties (thinness) as 5W-20. It just tolerates heat better that's all. 10W-30 and 20W-50 are thicker at atmosphere and engine operating temperatures.
Please if you don't believe me call a corporate office of any oil maker and ask.
Scottmatch if you would have read the earlier post you would know that this whole thing started over Mishri stating "the Boss Radiator and oil cooler added to a GT 5.0L is a waste of time and money". Which by the way is in your track pack. You took the side of the guy dissing your ride! LOL!
07-13-2012, 06:25 PM
#18
3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 558
Scottmatch if you would have read the earlier post you would know that this whole thing started over Mishri stating "the Boss Radiator and oil cooler added to a GT 5.0L is a waste of time and money". Which by the way is in your track pack. You took the side of the guy dissing your ride! LOL!
07-13-2012, 07:19 PM
#19
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 20
I believe that Ford 5W-50 in the GT500 as well as the Boss 302. My Acura TSX originally recommended 5W-30 (on the oil filler cap) but most Honda/Acura dealers use 5W-20 instead.
From my experience, 5W-20 will improve fuel economy. I made the mistake of using 10W-30 in my wife's old ZX2. Her MPGs dropped by a noticeable margin.
From my experience, 5W-20 will improve fuel economy. I made the mistake of using 10W-30 in my wife's old ZX2. Her MPGs dropped by a noticeable margin.
07-13-2012, 07:53 PM
#20
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 16
cooler oil = longer oil life? I'd disagree, it depends on the oil viscosity and oil temp, if you are doing normal driving or drag racing generally a 10w-30 isn't going to break down quickly.
If you are doing roadcourse and high rpm driving for extended periods a 20w-50 will help you more than I think that oil cooler will.
I believe the primary purpose of the boss cooling equipment is so you can run it on a road course with 10w-30 and not worry about engine oil getting too hot for its viscosity.
bad investment? in most situations yes.
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If you are doing roadcourse and high rpm driving for extended periods a 20w-50 will help you more than I think that oil cooler will.
I believe the primary purpose of the boss cooling equipment is so you can run it on a road course with 10w-30 and not worry about engine oil getting too hot for its viscosity.
bad investment? in most situations yes.
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I'm not sure how a heavier weight oil.....that could add to increased oil wrap on internal components...would equate to lower operating temps....versus a larger radiator and oil cooler. Not sure there is enough diference in heat absorption between 20w-50 and 5w-50 oil. I'll stick with my bigger rad. and oil cooler.
Wayne