Auto or manual
06-15-2013, 09:28 PM
#41
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Location: Washington
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I'm a very lonely person who feels I must blather constantly on threads. I have nothing to offer here because I feel I wasn't held much when I was a child.
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06-17-2013, 01:12 AM
#42
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: California
Posts: 35
Just picked up my first mustang, not my first performance car, but my first mustang none the less, and 6MT was the only way to go for me. I enjoy downshifting and overall feel a more engaging experience. I think that no matter what you select, you'll enjoy it and that's really all that matters.
08-25-2013, 03:08 PM
#43
As someone who was a manual driver for 25 years, with an automatic peppered here and there I say manual... I would still be in a manual if the accident I was in recently didn't fracture my C7 and under doctors orders can't drive stick anymore...
For the record I kept my 2000 vert stick, and after it came out of the shop (This was the car that was hit) I hopped in it to take small cruise around town and yep, now I understand why doctor said no more stick shift, after 15 minutes of stop and go traffic I was in massive amounts of pain.
my newest Mustang is an auto with the select shift and I am not a fan. The delay for it to shift is too long and I have red lined twice. I am going to grab a tuner and see if this can be adjusted.
For the record I kept my 2000 vert stick, and after it came out of the shop (This was the car that was hit) I hopped in it to take small cruise around town and yep, now I understand why doctor said no more stick shift, after 15 minutes of stop and go traffic I was in massive amounts of pain.
my newest Mustang is an auto with the select shift and I am not a fan. The delay for it to shift is too long and I have red lined twice. I am going to grab a tuner and see if this can be adjusted.
08-26-2013, 10:40 AM
#44
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 121
automatic for the win.
This is no c4.
Do you drive 50 laps on an oval track where the 3% power difference could be noticed ?
6 gears same as the standard.
No human can shift as fast as a computer.
Thats for all modern automatics.
Now on the 2011 up 5.0 automatic.
1st Gear 4.17 Ratio. Awesome.
This car likes to trap in 3rd in the quarter mile. This is huge. Compared to the standard which traps in 4th. You have torque multiplication the whole quartermile. The opposing standard, hits a 1-1 ratio. The Standard humanly shifts 3 times. Your automatic computer shifts twice. The standard can launch at a higher rpm and that's about it.
The throttle response stock does suck. A tune completely changes this.
Do you drive 50 laps on an oval track where the 3% power difference could be noticed ?
6 gears same as the standard.
No human can shift as fast as a computer.
Thats for all modern automatics.
Now on the 2011 up 5.0 automatic.
1st Gear 4.17 Ratio. Awesome.
This car likes to trap in 3rd in the quarter mile. This is huge. Compared to the standard which traps in 4th. You have torque multiplication the whole quartermile. The opposing standard, hits a 1-1 ratio. The Standard humanly shifts 3 times. Your automatic computer shifts twice. The standard can launch at a higher rpm and that's about it.
The throttle response stock does suck. A tune completely changes this.
08-26-2013, 10:58 AM
#45
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,792
This is no c4.
Do you drive 50 laps on an oval track where the 3% power difference could be noticed ?
6 gears same as the standard.
No human can shift as fast as a computer.
Thats for all modern automatics.
Now on the 2011 up 5.0 automatic.
1st Gear 4.17 Ratio. Awesome.
This car likes to trap in 3rd in the quarter mile. This is huge. Compared to the standard which traps in 4th. You have torque multiplication the whole quartermile. The opposing standard, hits a 1-1 ratio. The Standard humanly shifts 3 times. Your automatic computer shifts twice. The standard can launch at a higher rpm and that's about it.
The throttle response stock does suck. A tune completely changes this.
Do you drive 50 laps on an oval track where the 3% power difference could be noticed ?
6 gears same as the standard.
No human can shift as fast as a computer.
Thats for all modern automatics.
Now on the 2011 up 5.0 automatic.
1st Gear 4.17 Ratio. Awesome.
This car likes to trap in 3rd in the quarter mile. This is huge. Compared to the standard which traps in 4th. You have torque multiplication the whole quartermile. The opposing standard, hits a 1-1 ratio. The Standard humanly shifts 3 times. Your automatic computer shifts twice. The standard can launch at a higher rpm and that's about it.
The throttle response stock does suck. A tune completely changes this.
4th gear can run up to about 130 mph.
auto can be better for 1/4 mile, but manual is always more fun when you nail it. my grandma can drive an auto as good as anyone - atleast in a straight line
Last edited by Andy13186; 08-26-2013 at 03:07 PM.
08-26-2013, 11:46 AM
#46
1st Gear Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 121
gear ratios
1st 4.17 2nd 2.34 3rd 1.52 =automatic 3.15 final drive
1st 3.66 2nd 2.43 3rd 1.69 4th 1.32=standard. 3.31 3.55 or 3.73 final drive
My mistake I thought the standard had two overdrive gears as well.
Either way the math supports the automatic in the 1/4 mile.
In city driving I hit 5th in my auto which is an overdrive gear. So you will most likely get better mileage with an auto city driving.
Don't get me wrong a 3rd to 2nd drop in a standard is a fun ride, but the standard becomes equally not so fun when driving in a traffic jam. Most people can drive your car for you if you need them to as well. Some people refuse to drive a standard.
And to those who think that you are more engaged and more in control of your vehicle when your driving a standard your not. There are moments when you do not have both hands on the wheel, which is less control.
1st 3.66 2nd 2.43 3rd 1.69 4th 1.32=standard. 3.31 3.55 or 3.73 final drive
My mistake I thought the standard had two overdrive gears as well.
Either way the math supports the automatic in the 1/4 mile.
In city driving I hit 5th in my auto which is an overdrive gear. So you will most likely get better mileage with an auto city driving.
Don't get me wrong a 3rd to 2nd drop in a standard is a fun ride, but the standard becomes equally not so fun when driving in a traffic jam. Most people can drive your car for you if you need them to as well. Some people refuse to drive a standard.
And to those who think that you are more engaged and more in control of your vehicle when your driving a standard your not. There are moments when you do not have both hands on the wheel, which is less control.
08-26-2013, 01:24 PM
#47
1st 4.17 2nd 2.34 3rd 1.52 =automatic 3.15 final drive
1st 3.66 2nd 2.43 3rd 1.69 4th 1.32=standard. 3.31 3.55 or 3.73 final drive
My mistake I thought the standard had two overdrive gears as well.
Either way the math supports the automatic in the 1/4 mile.
In city driving I hit 5th in my auto which is an overdrive gear. So you will most likely get better mileage with an auto city driving.
Don't get me wrong a 3rd to 2nd drop in a standard is a fun ride, but the standard becomes equally not so fun when driving in a traffic jam. Most people can drive your car for you if you need them to as well. Some people refuse to drive a standard.
And to those who think that you are more engaged and more in control of your vehicle when your driving a standard your not. There are moments when you do not have both hands on the wheel, which is less control.
1st 3.66 2nd 2.43 3rd 1.69 4th 1.32=standard. 3.31 3.55 or 3.73 final drive
My mistake I thought the standard had two overdrive gears as well.
Either way the math supports the automatic in the 1/4 mile.
In city driving I hit 5th in my auto which is an overdrive gear. So you will most likely get better mileage with an auto city driving.
Don't get me wrong a 3rd to 2nd drop in a standard is a fun ride, but the standard becomes equally not so fun when driving in a traffic jam. Most people can drive your car for you if you need them to as well. Some people refuse to drive a standard.
And to those who think that you are more engaged and more in control of your vehicle when your driving a standard your not. There are moments when you do not have both hands on the wheel, which is less control.
That is my biggest issue with Select Shift automatic, the other is the delay it has to shift gears which is about 2 seconds. (Via me counting in my head)
08-26-2013, 09:47 PM
#48
1st Gear Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 121
Automatic select shift.
I took one look at my select shift, had a little laugh tried it out, had a bigger laugh.
My Stock auto 2013 GT premium with 91 octane, ran a 0-60 of 5.5 seconds in 30c heat, humid.
Same Day with Ford Racing 93 Tune ran a 0-60 5.1 seconds.
Same Day with a 91 VMP tune ran a 0-60 4.6 seconds.
All those times were done same location using my track pack applications. NOT using select shift. Just put in drive, left tc on, and mashed the gas peddle at idle.
My best time is a 0-60 of 4.2 seconds on a colder night 18c ,with my accufab 84.5mm throttlebody, kn typhoon intake, VMP 91 Performance tune. I had some wheel hop and spin in 1st, and a hard chirp into 2nd.
My Stock auto 2013 GT premium with 91 octane, ran a 0-60 of 5.5 seconds in 30c heat, humid.
Same Day with Ford Racing 93 Tune ran a 0-60 5.1 seconds.
Same Day with a 91 VMP tune ran a 0-60 4.6 seconds.
All those times were done same location using my track pack applications. NOT using select shift. Just put in drive, left tc on, and mashed the gas peddle at idle.
My best time is a 0-60 of 4.2 seconds on a colder night 18c ,with my accufab 84.5mm throttlebody, kn typhoon intake, VMP 91 Performance tune. I had some wheel hop and spin in 1st, and a hard chirp into 2nd.
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