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Old 05-14-2013, 02:34 AM   #21
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The dealership should have given you a loaner car, and I checked out the transmission and could not find an inspection plate. If there is one, than it would be near the bellhousing where the engine and transmission mate.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:47 AM   #22
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There just isn't one because nobody wants to compromise the strength of the bellhousing so they can put a window in. Issues with the clutch usually quickly reveal themselves in poor shifting performance anyway. The clutch will last 40+ thousand miles on a regularly driven car so, regular inspections aren't necessary. Plus, even with a window, you couldn't see what is relevant anyway, as that is the friction surface of the flywheel, the meat left on the clutch plate or the condition of the pressure plate face. All are sandwiched together invisible to the outside. You could see the PP bolts but, that is not a normal issue.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:30 AM   #23
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Eh, I mean the noise does Not exist with any other tunes then the cammed tune. One o the reps just offered to listen to it with the cammed tune on and just said I had really acute hearing and that it was super feint. They can't touch the car with that tune, so I would have to wait until/if it gets worse. My buddy loaded up a cammed tune as well, identical car minus the premium package and he has the same feint rattle. I can only hear t with my gt500 mufflers on, not my outlaws and windows have to be up and everything off. It has to be the clutch honestly, the second I start depressing the pedal the noise stops completely. Maybe it's the TOB? I don't know. Either way, I am going to wait until the clutch blows up then get a new one and new parts
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:14 AM   #24
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Tells you what you need to do:

Dump the cam tune and have the car run normally at idle.

The whole cam tune w/o cams is, to me, the same as sticker package "performance" cars back in the 70s. All tinsel, no substance.
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Old 05-15-2013, 12:33 PM   #25
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Well I am going to keep this short and sweet as I am doing this from my iPhone. Last night taking my son home from daycare with conservative acceleration in 4th getting onto the interstate, had a loud pop and mass grinding from the transmission. Clutch is spongey on the back end of the throw. Car seats all gear but grinds when trying to engage. Car is towed to a dealer so if the come back and say its the clutch it's upgrade time and if it is the trans, well lets hope they warranty it.

13,561.5 miles driven. Wish me luck. Once everything is ironed out will update!!!
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Guess it wasn't the cam tune then...good luck: Clutch and other wear items like brake pads is warrantable 1 year.
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Guess it wasn't the cam tune then...good luck: Clutch and other wear items like brake pads is warrantable 1 year.
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Well according to the dealer, clutch (consumables) are covered under zero warranty unless its a manufacturers defect. This will be a short post as well but light is on the horizon...

Clutch disk "blew up" according to the dealer and this happened while I was driving in a gear so firs time for me. Immediately got towed from the dealer to a reputable transmission / drivetrain shop and they are getting me all setup with the following: new pilot bushing (bearing I assume??), new hydraulics and TOB, new pressure plate, resurfaced flywheel, a fabricated 6 flange puck style disc (made of multiple different compounds). Looks to be $1575 out the door parts and labor with a 1 year warranty.

He said he would take pictures of install and give me the stock parts. Kinda curious to see it as I beat the living sh** out of my car since the odometer read 21 miles lol.

Pictures to come hopefully by this weekend!!!

PS!!! Spoke to him about the rattling he knew it right away! He said it was from the input shaft. Apparently with how aggressive the lope is it is normal to have a slight rattle, hence why when I touch the clutch it stops. So multiple birds with one stone here.

Ill keep ya posted!!
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I'm having a hard time understanding why this is not a warranty repair.
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I'm having a hard time understanding why this is not a warranty repair.
If they had a warranty the was set to let's say 1 year 12k miles I would of blew it up before that mark and got a free clutch to milk it on. How about the amount of drivers that blow them up in the first 5000 seems like it happens far too much. I didn't realize this until the next morning driving my wife's car to work and I was behind this chick in a black 2012 v6 mustang and every time traffic moved she chirped he tires and bucked the car 2-3 times. I mean every time she moved!!!! Car stalled 4 times within 100 yards!!!! So I understand their mentality plus they didn't charge me for pullin the trans or the diagnostics which I should have been since it wasn't under warranty.

Not hard feelings. I beat the hell out of the stock clutch and looking forward to bigger better things. You gotta pay to play I reckon.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:44 AM   #30
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you know what? I appreciate your forthright honesty and admission as to how you treat the car. Every one that slips a warranty claim past the dealer/Ford that is rooted in abuse makes getting warranty coverage for legitimate claims that much harder. I had a hell of a time convincing the dealer and Ford that my transmission that croaked in 3000 miles with zero abuse wasn't my fault.

If I light my clutch up at this stage 17 months in, I'll just pull it and install a better one myself. It's a two day driveway job, maximum, if you organize yourself; gotta love rear drive for ease in this area.
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you know what? I appreciate your forthright honesty and admission as to how you treat the car. Every one that slips a warranty claim past the dealer/Ford that is rooted in abuse makes getting warranty coverage for legitimate claims that much harder. I had a hell of a time convincing the dealer and Ford that my transmission that croaked in 3000 miles with zero abuse wasn't my fault.

If I light my clutch up at this stage 17 months in, I'll just pull it and install a better one myself. It's a two day driveway job, maximum, if you organize yourself; gotta love rear drive for ease in this area.
You know, I read, read and read countless forms and articles about horror stories and everything pertaining to warranties. I thought to myself you know what screw it. I took it in fully modded and just got super lucky te guy I was working with auto crosses on the weekends lol. He told me to revert my tune incase they needed to update. I told him straight up this car was my Bi*** and I let her know it everyday. I mean why lie about mods or how you drive? WHY BUY A PERFORMANCE VEHICLE AND NOT LET IT PERFORM?!?!? Really chaps my *** sometimes. I mean I drive it super easy a times too! I can get 28.6 mpg highway and 16.3 city if I need / want to but that is not my concern. Sometimes I feel people think these techs tell how you treat your vehcile lol. My clutch disc blew up will accelerating in 4th gear a 3500 rpm, that means it was abused with aggressive high rpm shifts since day one with NO breakin!!! If I drove with improper use it would have failed while shifting or something. So I know it, they know it, why hide it haha.

Sorry for the long post but I figure you keep it straight if something actually fails, they will take care of me. The tech even recommends the shop I towed it to lol.
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Here we are just drove home on my regular performance tune with my brand new clutch. I must say, I have had a bad clutch since the dealership i picked it up from with no miles! The guy said one of the springs had been worn for a long time. My clutches throw has always been up top at the last couple inches before it grabs and it would sometimes double grab, i just got used to it. Now for the new clutch...

This thing is sharp! Grabs as soon as the pedal comes of the floor! when it bites it bites! Does have a very feint chatter when it initially begins to grab but nothing a performance clutch doesnt have. This is my first true performance clutch and i have driven 9 miles on it without breaking 2100 rpms and i must say I LOVE IT!! Should have changed my clutch first! Little stiffer grabs well and just feels better! All my shifting problems are gone! Car drives like it should have from the get go!

Now this thread will be dead as there is zero issues with my transmission and clutch now, but here are some pictures for you!!!!!!

PS We decided against the puck disc and went with an aggressive full disc and wouldnt change it for the world! 741 more miles until break in!!



























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Please don't tell me you had a new version of your old clutch installed by the dealership! Please tell me you upgraded to a better engineered after market clutch! If not why do you have faith in the stock clutch?
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Puck discs can be brutal in DD use.

....and yeah...tough passing this off as warrantable. To actually shatter those damping springs takes one hell of a shock load.

I've seen a lot worse though.
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Please don't tell me you had a new version of your old clutch installed by the dealership! Please tell me you upgraded to a better engineered after market clutch! If not why do you have faith in the stock clutch?
Nope, should read the thread. I towed it to a transmission shop to get one fabricated that is rated for 600 lbs of torque.

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Puck discs can be brutal in DD use.

....and yeah...tough passing this off as warrantable. To actually shatter those damping springs takes one hell of a shock load.

I've seen a lot worse though.
Yea after we talked a few hours later he called me back and said we shouldn't use that puck. Super glad with this full disc.

Yea originally we thought only two, then I found the third lol.... Only 2 legitimate clutch dumps for burnouts (tires are too expensive lol)

Either way, put about 30 miles on the car so far (no cam tune until broke in) and this thing drives so well! It has the best manners it has ever had! No bucking, double grabbing or anything! The chatter is so feint i can only hear it in my garage. It feels so sturdy and wish i would have swapped it as my first mod!

Reckon I will continue on breaking it in and once i hit 750 miles, gonna run her through the gears and let you know how the performance side grabs.

Really makes me wonder how i drove the car on that weak stock clutch...
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not filling me with confidence as I've done dozens of 5000 rpm clutch dumps, on slicks at the track. So far all seems fine but.....
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not filling me with confidence as I've done dozens of 5000 rpm clutch dumps, on slicks at the track. So far all seems fine but.....
Yea it surprised me as we'll. that's why I though it would last a little longer. My cobras clutch lasted 63k with a hell of a lot of dumps and hard launches. So I have one burnout, dumped at 4 grand, one dumped at 6 grand rolling burnout and I road the cars clutch once in traffic while giving the guy a finger.... Was too focused on him and its the only time I smelled the clutch ever, it's on or off not in between haha. I was constantly over 5 grand. Oooooooo wait I forgot the mention I would engine break every time!! I never use my brakes lol. Engine breaks 90% of the time ride the clutch up to 3grand then slows and downshift again up to 3 grand. I mean every light or stop sign or anything. That could of done it too lol
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Man I gotta stop reading these things you guys make me scared as hell to go drive my stang. I work for the railroad and was making good money at one point but just like a lot of other people my job and pay are slowly taking a dive. Pay has dropped about $1000 every two weeks and I don't have money to dump into the car right now. I sure hope nothing big goes wrong anytime soon.
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Man I gotta stop reading these things you guys make me scared as hell to go drive my stang. I work for the railroad and was making good money at one point but just like a lot of other people my job and pay are slowly taking a dive. Pay has dropped about $1000 every two weeks and I don't have money to dump into the car right now. I sure hope nothing big goes wrong anytime soon.
Why be scared? Just drive it within reason. It's not like I had an extra 1600 lying around, my savings and credit card took a hit. Pay to play, and I okay hard. You will be fine, I beat the snot of of my clutch so it was only natural. I am sure your good lol
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