2011 5.0: 2.3 Whipple or Hellion Twin Turbo?
#2
If you have any concern with reliabilty, the supercharger is the way to go. A lot less connections to fail, easy tuning, minimal underhood heat increases, step-up ratio allows the use of a large volume blower without sacrificing driveability and solid reliability in the supercharger components. Honestly, I'd go TVS rather than Whipple if you want a PD blower; there's just more support out there for it and it's capable of supporting power levels that will destroy the stock longblock easily.
Frankly, I'm a centrifugal style fan. Easy install, easy tuning, easier on the engine and more likely to actually transfer power to the ground over going up in smoke.
I've tried all the power adders at one time or another and centri offered the most smiles per gallon.
Frankly, I'm a centrifugal style fan. Easy install, easy tuning, easier on the engine and more likely to actually transfer power to the ground over going up in smoke.
I've tried all the power adders at one time or another and centri offered the most smiles per gallon.
#4
$ isn't the issue. There just is no way a turbo twin kit and anything around it is going to stand up long term the way and engine driven SC will, no matter what one is chosen.
We all know about 600+ is close to the limit of the stock internals on the engine.
We all know about 600+ is close to the limit of the stock internals on the engine.
#6
Wow....Andy was right to ask about your budget and goals.
There's no way in hell you can do this for that budget. You're totally on the ragged edge for stock internals.
There's a 7K blower here and you've 3k to cover everything else?
To get durability at this power level you need to minimally forge the short block, replace all the valvesprings, put steel oil pump gears in. Plus, you'll need a real fuel system, not something that can get sketchy like a boost a pump.
Plus incidentals like the best tuning you can lay your hands on and some exhaust work so you don't melt the cats.
AND, I am assuming you are doing every lick of the work yourself.
There's no way you'll stay under 10K if you want it to last, not at that power level.
There's no way in hell you can do this for that budget. You're totally on the ragged edge for stock internals.
There's a 7K blower here and you've 3k to cover everything else?
To get durability at this power level you need to minimally forge the short block, replace all the valvesprings, put steel oil pump gears in. Plus, you'll need a real fuel system, not something that can get sketchy like a boost a pump.
Plus incidentals like the best tuning you can lay your hands on and some exhaust work so you don't melt the cats.
AND, I am assuming you are doing every lick of the work yourself.
There's no way you'll stay under 10K if you want it to last, not at that power level.
Last edited by P51C; 04-01-2014 at 08:20 AM.
#7
kenne bell wont come under that price and 2.8 is overkill for that HP, and youd probably need a new hood too I think.
I think a VMP roush kit, or beefcake paxton kit would fit your needs best.
the beefcake kit will be peakier more like a turbo, VMP will be a blast of power at any moment you put your foot down.
centri vs tvs, do some research, listen to some clips and races and then decide
I think vmp can reportedly do up to 800 rwhp, the paxton can go up to 1000 , both of these power levels you need to get forged internals though and other upgrades
I think a VMP roush kit, or beefcake paxton kit would fit your needs best.
the beefcake kit will be peakier more like a turbo, VMP will be a blast of power at any moment you put your foot down.
centri vs tvs, do some research, listen to some clips and races and then decide
I think vmp can reportedly do up to 800 rwhp, the paxton can go up to 1000 , both of these power levels you need to get forged internals though and other upgrades
Last edited by Andy13186; 04-06-2014 at 08:59 PM.
#9
I'll probably go with the kenne bell 2.8LC and add a set of long tubes for good measure. I've already got a programmer, so I'll most likely just order the tuner kit and a set of injectors. I have an O/R H - pipe installed already, so melting the cats isn't a worry. I have a shop that quoted me $11,500 for the Hellion install with relocating the fuse box and battery, so I'm guessing this setup will come in just under $10k.
#10
With a Whipple kit you can just bolt it on and go with little maintenance. With any turbo kit it will require constant maintenance and work. Something to think about. The VMP TVS is something to think about as well as it is a great kit for the money and can put you deep into the 10's on the stock motor.