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Originally Posted by basketballord
I would put my savings down that the every single X kit will be more reliable than that X Carbon supercharger posted earlier. Same goes to all the cheap import turbo kits out there. Higher quality parts, GENUINE Magnuson/Eaton Supercharger, no iffy proprietary housing, exceptional ease of installation and instructions, and second-to-none customer service.
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I have seen both in person. First, they are made by Jackson Racing and they are top-notch kits. Did you click on the link provided? The kit I listed uses a latest gen Eaton supercharger. Furthermore, these units a vastly superior warranty to the X...so I am not sure you have a ton of firm ground here.
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Originally Posted by basketballord
I think any X-Charger owner will tell you that Dave is a good guy and is not out to screw anyone over with pricing. He has to turn a profit. I don't think he has the resources of a larger company to make more units simultaneously, which would greatly bring down costs. If he could sell them for $2500, he would. He is not stupid, he knows he would sell more if they were cheaper.
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Markets are what they are. Folks wonder why items dont sell...and there is one simple answer...you dont have a buyer. So in almost 3 years, we are sitting at less than 100 units out the door and you have to wonder why.
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Originally Posted by basketballord
If you haven't noticed, any performance parts for hondas and other imports are WAY cheaper. That's because the market for them is huge - thanks to the fast and furious, everyone who owns a honda thinks they have a race car. Sure, there are tons of v6 stangs, but not a TON of people that are looking to slap on F/I like all the ricers in the various hondas, acuras, toyotas, etc. Also note that the 4.0 stang has only been in production since 05, so there really aren't that many 4.0 stangs out there when you compare to all the imports out there. The demand for the performance parts of those imports is WAY greater than for our v6 stangs, allowing companies to make tons of their parts to bring down costs because they know all the ricers out there will buy them up.
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I have noticed and that is exactly the point I have been trying to make. Just FYI, there are nearly 1MM S197's out there now and nearly 70% are V6's. So that puts about 650,000 of them out there. If 1/10 of 1% of us would go FI...that is 650 units. Yes, only 1 in 1000! So we have the numbers.
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Originally Posted by basketballord
The point I am trying to make is that Dave at EE is not trying to screw anyone with his pricing, it's just what he has to do to keep in business. And making remarks that he is screwing people over is likely to perturb some people on here who know him personally.
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Noone said he is screwing people and there is no need to put words in my mouth. I do believe he is grossly overpriced and it is clear from the responses here and other threads that units would sell 10:1 if the price point was $2500.
As challenged earlier...you CAN produce a quality Eaton turn-key kit with tuner for $2500. Lets keep in mind that Jackson is small firm too...and yet they have found a way to bring these to market...and they sell a ton of them.
Like I said earlier...if they were $2500...I would buy one today. I bet allot folks reading this thread would do the same thing. At $4500..I will sit on the sidelines...and so will many others.