The unofficial resource center for Mustang owners and enthusiasts
Ford Mustang Forums - Ford Mustang Classifieds - MustangForums.com Photo Galleries - MustangForums.com Chat Room - Create an Account - Mustang News


Go Back   MustangForums.com > Ford Mustang Tech > 6 Cyl (V6) Applications
Welcome to Mustang Forums!
Welcome to Mustang Forums.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-28-2009, 11:03 AM   #21
LilRoush
5th Gear Member
2000 Ford Mustang
 
LilRoush's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle: 2000 Roush
Location: South FL
Posts: 4,293
Send a message via AIM to LilRoush
Default

If you cut a hole in the hood scoop to force air into the engine bay from the top, you'll loose performance. It's that simple. Why do something like that? If anything, you could add a reverse scoop to act as heat extraction, and even that on a street car isn't needed.
But then again, I'm kinda new at all this car stuff, so I could be wrong.
This ad is not displayed to registered or logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Mustang Forums!
__________________
~Matt
Race car: 2000 Roush #5004
Shark hauler: 2001 Explorer Sport 4.0L
Show car: 1970 Mach 1 351
LilRoush is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 11:54 AM   #22
2004 V6 3.9
2nd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Vehicle: 2004 Mustang
Location: MA
Posts: 436
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LilRoush View Post
If you cut a hole in the hood scoop to force air into the engine bay from the top, you'll loose performance. It's that simple. Why do something like that? If anything, you could add a reverse scoop to act as heat extraction, and even that on a street car isn't needed.
But then again, I'm kinda new at all this car stuff, so I could be wrong.
the reason i want to is bc it would be cool, look better, be different from everyone else, and also i think you would be able to hear the engine better which is a plus... i also didnt think it would hurt anything, if anything i thought it would help cool the engine but i am the newbie here and i think your the expert lol so im taking your advice to just leave it alone.. can you just help me understand how it could hurt performance? besides wind drag
__________________
2004 V6 3.9 - Torch Red

~MAC - Straight Shot CAI
~True Dual Flow 40's
~SCT X-cal 2 VMP Tuned
~DD Bullitt 18" "Shelby Special Edition"
wraped in Toyo T1R's Staggared

4:10's/trutrac/install FUND=$900 GOT IT*

~Alpine head unit
2- 12" Type R's
Infinitys all around
Got that *BUMP* lol
2004 V6 3.9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 12:09 PM   #23
bgnn32
2nd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Vehicle: 1997, Ford, Mustang V6
Location: MA
Posts: 313
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaunmac9128 View Post
Hes just making a point...thats its not a good idea. Cutting the hood yourself can go south qucikly and whats the point if its just going to mess up air flow in the engine as it is and not do anything performance wise? Is there any reason to still do it other than to tell people when they ask that yes its a functioinal scoop?
So instead we will get 80 posts in this thread of people telling him it won't improve performance (which he already said he knows and doesn't care). It is one thing to point it out, but when it has already been pointed out, acknowledged and considered an non-issue then all that remains is answering the guys question, not continuing to beat a dead horse.
bgnn32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 02:36 PM   #24
LilRoush
5th Gear Member
2000 Ford Mustang
 
LilRoush's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle: 2000 Roush
Location: South FL
Posts: 4,293
Send a message via AIM to LilRoush
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2004 V6 3.9 View Post
can you just help me understand how it could hurt performance? besides wind drag
Air flow is HUGE and not just due to drag. Proper air flow through the radiator keeps the engine cool, not air moving over the motor. If you impede how the air moves front to rear over the radiator fins, you'll hurt cooling. By forcing air in the top of the hood, you're blocking air from flowing through the radiator correctly. Instead of air going through the radiator and down under the car, it would be passing the radiaor, then hitting a variable speed down draft that will cause a swirl in the air.
On top of that, you are adding more air that will now have to go UNDER the car. Less air under the car is better. And what little does have to go under needs to be as smooth flowing as possible. Adding a down draft 1/3 the length of the car back (firewall), you're mixing it up even more. Mixing air under the car creates both drag, and high pressure under the car: 2 bad things in regards to performance.
__________________
~Matt
Race car: 2000 Roush #5004
Shark hauler: 2001 Explorer Sport 4.0L
Show car: 1970 Mach 1 351
LilRoush is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 03:46 PM   #25
2004 V6 3.9
2nd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Vehicle: 2004 Mustang
Location: MA
Posts: 436
Default

0o0ooo ... now it makes alottaa sense. thanks for the info -- i guess if i do do anything that i'l have to make it airtight & hook it up to the intake which i know as everyone has said will give me just about no gains.. im going to wait a little while b4 i do anything thanks again
__________________
2004 V6 3.9 - Torch Red

~MAC - Straight Shot CAI
~True Dual Flow 40's
~SCT X-cal 2 VMP Tuned
~DD Bullitt 18" "Shelby Special Edition"
wraped in Toyo T1R's Staggared

4:10's/trutrac/install FUND=$900 GOT IT*

~Alpine head unit
2- 12" Type R's
Infinitys all around
Got that *BUMP* lol
2004 V6 3.9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 04:27 PM   #26
Modular_Madness96
2nd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 311
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LilRoush View Post
Air flow is HUGE and not just due to drag. Proper air flow through the radiator keeps the engine cool, not air moving over the motor. If you impede how the air moves front to rear over the radiator fins, you'll hurt cooling. By forcing air in the top of the hood, you're blocking air from flowing through the radiator correctly. Instead of air going through the radiator and down under the car, it would be passing the radiaor, then hitting a variable speed down draft that will cause a swirl in the air.
On top of that, you are adding more air that will now have to go UNDER the car. Less air under the car is better. And what little does have to go under needs to be as smooth flowing as possible. Adding a down draft 1/3 the length of the car back (firewall), you're mixing it up even more. Mixing air under the car creates both drag, and high pressure under the car: 2 bad things in regards to performance.

ITS A V6!Jesus christ the kid has said on numerous posts its simply for looks!

And as for your claims i personally think youre an idiot!Plain and simple!This isnt NASCAR its a street driven V6 mustang all the racing stuff doesnt apply.I have functional aftermarket hoods with scoops on all of my mustangs and havent felt any differences!

Hes speaking of cutting what an 8x2 slit in his hood for looks how is that going to kill performance?My 89 coupe has a COBRA R SVO hood with the scoop cut out and functional,both of my 84's have the GT hoods with the hood again cut out,and last but not least my 96 GT has the MACH II hood and yes its cut out and again no performance loss.

The only thing i have noticed is that the temps stay a little lower on the highway.

Just an FYI if your coolant system works properly you could run around with no hood if you wanted and still have no issues.
__________________
1989 Lx Coupe (ex 4 banger) 331 stroker/100 shot
1984 Lx Coupe (ex 6 popper) 310 normal bolt ons
1984 GT hatch 69 351W normal bolt ons
1988 GT hatch 308 (motor still on the stand)
1996 GT stock 4.6 (soon to be supercharged)

Last edited by Modular_Madness96; 02-28-2009 at 04:29 PM.
Modular_Madness96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 09:27 PM   #27
crbakp10
1st Gear Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Vehicle: 2002 v6 Ford Mustang
Location:
Posts: 90
Default

Not sure if you read the entire thread or not but he was answering the guys question on why HE thought it would be a bad i idea....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Modular_Madness96 View Post
ITS A V6!Jesus christ the kid has said on numerous posts its simply for looks!

And as for your claims i personally think youre an idiot!Plain and simple!This isnt NASCAR its a street driven V6 mustang all the racing stuff doesnt apply.I have functional aftermarket hoods with scoops on all of my mustangs and havent felt any differences!

Hes speaking of cutting what an 8x2 slit in his hood for looks how is that going to kill performance?My 89 coupe has a COBRA R SVO hood with the scoop cut out and functional,both of my 84's have the GT hoods with the hood again cut out,and last but not least my 96 GT has the MACH II hood and yes its cut out and again no performance loss.

The only thing i have noticed is that the temps stay a little lower on the highway.

Just an FYI if your coolant system works properly you could run around with no hood if you wanted and still have no issues.
__________________
crbakp10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 11:35 PM   #28
Shaunmac9128
5th Gear Member
2001 Ford Mustang
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Vehicle: 2001, Mustang, V6 Convertible
Location: RI
Posts: 2,484
Default

madness, how is it for looks? The hole is under the scoop therefore...you cant see it, what looks? And your right, our cars arn't nascar cars but airflow is very important in any car from ours to a minivan. Infact (motortrend) I think something like 10-25% of a cars fuel mileage is dependent on the cars aerodynamics, granted thats a little more complicated than a hood scoop.
__________________

16.17 @ 86.19mph 2.35 60'
Shaunmac9128 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2009, 11:26 AM   #29
2004 V6 3.9
2nd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Vehicle: 2004 Mustang
Location: MA
Posts: 436
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaunmac9128 View Post
madness, how is it for looks? The hole is under the scoop therefore...you cant see it, what looks? .
it doesnt realy matter what i want to do it for.. i just wanted to know if it was possible without any negative affect. but as far as looks I think any car person would notice if it was open/fuctional
__________________
2004 V6 3.9 - Torch Red

~MAC - Straight Shot CAI
~True Dual Flow 40's
~SCT X-cal 2 VMP Tuned
~DD Bullitt 18" "Shelby Special Edition"
wraped in Toyo T1R's Staggared

4:10's/trutrac/install FUND=$900 GOT IT*

~Alpine head unit
2- 12" Type R's
Infinitys all around
Got that *BUMP* lol
2004 V6 3.9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2009, 11:45 AM   #30
StangKid018
3rd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location:
Posts: 554
Default

Ive never had any problems with rain, never driven it in falling snow but id imagine its not different. It comes with hoses that drain any water under the engine bay both on the outside of the shaker and inside the scoop.
__________________
2004 Mustang 3.9L
1998 Cobra 8.8 Rear End, 3.73s
CDC Shaker Intake System
K&N Filter /w Removed Silencer
American Thunder Flowmaster Original 40s
MAC Longtube Headers
MAC O/R H-Pipe
17x8 Arcathite Bullits
Mach 1 Chin Spoiler / Grill Delete / GT Fogs
StangKid018 is offline   Reply With Quote



Reply



Tags
2002, 2003, 427r, extracting, function, functional, heat, hood, make, making, mustang, scoop, supercharger, v6

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Advertising

Featured Sponsors
New Sponsors
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:28 AM.

© Internet Brands, Inc.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company